Why are we a divided Nation?

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  1. LangleyMan

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    Who is talking seriously about California seceding?
     
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    That makes no sense. Obama got elected twice and Hillary got the popular vote. Neither are white males.
     
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    You really think that Im that stupid LM?
    so tell me where in Canada did this incident happen?

    You really dont know what you're talking about, try and pay attention , you might learn something

    Your friend said he broke his ankle saw his GP, he made no mention of an emergency visit, now he is adding to the story

    His original post, was he saw his GP,9:30, got his xray, saw his GP later in the afternoon 1:30, no mention of emergency

    Yeah I call BS. and the fact he wants to place a bet with me to verify his story shows how full of Shit he is

    You want to believe the story that your prerogative, and you wonder why the founding fathers didn't want to the popular vote to elect the President
     
  4. ArmySoldier

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    People in California. They had a massive petition.
     
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    The national divide happened greatly under Obama. Most of his decisions were based off of social issues and false promises that led to disaster after disaster. It radicalized the left wing to what we have now- Alt leftists.

    Then they were CONVINCED Hillary (their messiah) would win, and were completely shocked she got OWNED in the election and have radicalized further.

    Hence them thinking Liz Warren should run! LOL!
     
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    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    He said he had a broken ankle, that's an emergency. Any broken bone is an emergency and any POSSIBLE broken bone is an emergency until the condition of the bone is determined. A broken bone has to be set RIGHT AWAY or it can start to heal wrong and have complications, Are you aware of the meaning of the phrase, "it goes without saying?"

    Of course you are, Stop Trolling
     
  7. GChairman

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    Now, you're trolling because you cant admit you made a mistake , I will reprint his exact post

    That was his original post, where did it say he went to the emergency?

    If he had said that, it would be more believable, you cannot see a GP the same day, if he is a guest to Canada, he would have to see a Doctor in a walk in clinic, but if its broken they would advise him to go to Emergency and they would do the work right there and then.

    No GP's are involved

    Don't B.S me as I lived there and know how it works, and I know how NHS works too as I lived in London England for 5 years.

    I've traveled to 35 countries as im an avid traveler so I have an idea how most healthcare works

    so let him answer my question , which city in Canada did his incident occur ?
     
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    How do those in the Third World do it, then? The answer is that the majority of elderly people in the Third World are far fitter, and suffer less dementia etc, than First Worlders. They do die younger in some places, but remain active and useful up until that time. They don't become burdens to the same degree our elderly do. That's a result of lifestyle, nothing else. They never develop the bad habits of laziness and gluttony etc.

    No one has to 'live up to my standard'. This is about the very bare minimum and very obvious stuff we need to be doing if we a) expect anyone to care for us, and b) expect to return that favour by being able to care for others. I can't imagine why you think that's too much to ask. Sad, if you do.
     
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    Also, Obama sending White House Aides to the funeral of an Attempted Cop Killer was not a great way to Unite the nation he divided already....
     
  10. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    And they would be sued to hell and begone if the referral to an emergency resulted in any complications, which it well might have and if they had the facilities to set a broken bone, which facility would consist of anyone with an MD degree. They would refer him to an ER room right away BUT they would set the broken bone first OR (much more likely) call an ambulance to transport him but they WOULD see him first to determine his condition (and thus cover their ass). A GP is a GENERAL Practitioner, that means he is qualified to treat EMERGENCIES TOO, he would NOT refer anyone anywhere without seeing them first. He might not see them for more than a cursory glance but he would actually see them.
     
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    Mr. Lenin's older brother, you are missing the point

    I know what a GP is, your boy said he broke his ankle ( how he knew that is another discussion) if anyone thinks they broke their bone, they wouldn't go to their GP, as they couldn't get in to see one that quick, they would advise him to go to Emergency

    Once in Emergency they can x ray see the damage and if broken depending on the damage do their thing, whether operate, cast it or whatever.

    Your boy said he saw his GP 9:30..

    , GP's don't do X rays, they don't have the machine in their offices, so that is BS

    they refer you to an x ray technician, if they suspect its broken they will instruct you to go to emergency right away

    They wouldn't send you to an orthopedic surgeon and you wouldn't get an appointment right away

    His story is B.S and he wants to bet 20 grand to verify his story, come on, does he really think Im that dumb to fall for that

    If I didn't live in Canada during that time , I might have believed him but since Ive lived there at one time, I know how it works as I had a compound fracture on my left wrist after a freak baseball accident and I couldn't see my GP for a week(earliest appt available) and they advised me to go straight to emergency 7 hours later I got a cast, and that hospital was a huge hospital not some rinky dink place.
     
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  12. LangleyMan

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    Put it on the ballot. Watch it lose.
     
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    Nonsense. My ankle didn't hurt and I walked off the golf course,
    I called my wife on the way back from the golf course and she got me the appointment with our GP. No need to wait in Emergency. Parking for the doc is the same lot as Emergency.
    I didn't say I got an x-ray in the doc's office. In fact, your post quotes me saying where I got the x-ray ... @LangleyMan: "Get a clue. My wife drove me to our GP; he ordered an x-ray at the hospital 500' away; got it and went back to the doc; the doc sent me to the hospital to see the surgeon; I chose a cast instead of a plate and was done in a half hour."
    My doc ordered the x-ray and I avoided waiting in Emergency to see a doctor who would order the same x-ray.
    My doc did and you end up seeing someone ASAP with broken legs.
    Same offer to you--my $20,000 against your $1,000. We can split the cost of a third party deciding who wins the bet. Both of us have to deposit our wager plus pay half of the fee with the third party before the investigation proceeds.
    Seven hours ... so you know why I went to my GP rather than sit in Emergency and then wait there to see a doc who would order x-rays. (It pays to have the same doc for 30 years.)

    Apparently, you never figured out how to get better care in Canada.
     
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    You had a broken ankle and you walked off the golf course , and you called your wife who set up the GP appointment right away, as I asked before which city and province did this incident occurred in ?

    Let me get this straight, you didn't get the xray in the docs office , so where did you get the xrays ?

    really, so yo must have or had an amazing doc , you're the only one I know of that has ever seen a GP, got x rays, seen a orthopedic surgeon and asked them to put on a cast all in one day in Canada, amazing

    I noticed you avoided my question, let me ask again, which city and province did this occur?

    30 years huh, so you're saying you're Canadian Langleyman?


    Sorry I smell B.S on this one.

    I bet you wont answer my question
     
  15. LangleyMan

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    So, what's your point? You're going to sic health police on people? You want to tax soda pop?

    They'll crucify anyone who tries to take away Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid.
    What do you mean by "expect?"
     
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    I don't live in California. I would never be dumb enough to move there on purpose.

    Also, you asked who wanted it, and you were given an answer. The people of CA made a petition to secede. I'll take your deflection as embarrassment for the fact that you couldn't give it a simple 'google'.
     
  18. LangleyMan

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    Langley, BC.
    Langley Memorial Hospital.
    I doubt you have much experience with the medical care system in Canada.
    Born and raised in USA; naturalized in Canada; live part of the year in Oregon, part in Canada.
    You can find out... but it will eventually cost you. :)

    P.S. Since you dislike Democrats, I'll donate whatever is left over after paying the third party to the DNC in your name.

    P.P.S. I've never voted for a Democrat, so I wouldn't donate in my name.
     
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    LMFAO, says the guy who claims he walked off the golf course with a broken ankle, saw a GP, got xrays blah blah blah

    Sorry dude, While Ive never lived in BC , I lived in Toronto, Ontario so I know how the Ontario plan works.

    Im having a hard time believing your story

    I despise the Democrats, so your point is what?

    Im curious mr naturalized Canadian, who did you vote for in the provincial and federal election?
     
  20. LangleyMan

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    Relevance?
    So what? I used to live in CA and I can tell you even in this era of blowhard Presidents that seceding isn't a serious idea.

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    CA is not interested in leaving, no doubt upsetting to some of you MAGA types.
    I don't need to search the issue. No one with any credibility is talking seriously about CA seceding. Your comment that "people in California" are talking about it is fatuous nonsense.
     
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    Relevance? YOU asked who wanted CA to secede, LOL! YOU asked it.

    And you were given an answer that made you really sad! The PEOPLE of CA want to secede, as THEY made a petition.

    Why does that send you into a monster temper tantrum? Not like it affects you.
     
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    I'll increase the bet ... $25,000 against your $1,000. While it would be more difficult to prove I walked off the golf course, I can easily establish with medical records my claim about seeing my GP, getting x-rays, and seeing an orthopedic surgeon on the same day.
    No, you're making nasty noises about what you know not. Skepticism is one thing, THIS is trash talk.
    What I said: "Since you dislike Democrats, I'll donate whatever is left over after paying the third party to the DNC in your name."
    And you think I would provide you an answer when you make an insult part of the question? :rolleyes:
     
  23. LangleyMan

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    I didn't ask for your gratuitous personal aside: "I don't live in California. I would never be dumb enough to move there on purpose." I just wanted to know who was talking about seceding.
    No, the people of California don't want to secede.

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    Why are you mischaracterizing my reaction?
     
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    YOU asked a question. The people of Vermont did not create a petition for California to secede. It was CALIFORNIA residents that created the petition.

    Something you cannot come to terms with given your alt left political bias.
     
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    LMFAO

    This isn't trash talk, I having a hard time believing your story , it makes no sense

    An insult ? why because I'm challenging your story?
     

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