Looks like democrats have lost the public

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by logical1, Nov 19, 2019.

  1. logical1

    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 15, 2011
    Messages:
    25,426
    Likes Received:
    8,068
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    On this mornings news, it is being reported that only 5% are watching the "inquiry". Apparently Schiff's totally one sided dog and pony show is a huge bore. Since he wont let republican hardly speak, or bring witnesses they want to present, the whole thing is nothing more than a democrat political ad.

    What say others?
     
  2. TOG 6

    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2015
    Messages:
    47,848
    Likes Received:
    19,639
    Trophy Points:
    113
    These hearings don't matter - regardless of what any witness says, the Democrats will vote to impeach Trump.
     
    Ddyad, Blaster3 and ButterBalls like this.
  3. Capt Nice

    Capt Nice Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2017
    Messages:
    9,998
    Likes Received:
    10,217
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    That's a given. One thing the dems hope the hearing will accomplish is that some trumpers will watch the live broadcast to hear what the witnesses have to say. If the MSM reports what the witnesses say trumpers will call it Fake News. If they watch it happening in real time they might start to think they've been duped by donald.
     
    DaveBN likes this.
  4. DaveBN

    DaveBN Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2018
    Messages:
    9,063
    Likes Received:
    4,875
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Anyone have viewership numbers on Clinton’s impeachment proceedings at a similar timeframe? Is viewership through no traditional counted the same?
     
  5. TOG 6

    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2015
    Messages:
    47,848
    Likes Received:
    19,639
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Given the "testimony" offered so far, it is more likely that independents and thinking Democrats will see this for the partisan nonsense it is and vote for someone other than the (D) candidate next year.
     
    Last edited: Nov 19, 2019
    Ddyad, TBLee, Blaster3 and 2 others like this.
  6. DaveBN

    DaveBN Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2018
    Messages:
    9,063
    Likes Received:
    4,875
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Do you view that as any different than Mitch stating the senate will acquit Trump regardless of house findings?
     
  7. TOG 6

    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2015
    Messages:
    47,848
    Likes Received:
    19,639
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Cite, please.
     
    roorooroo and ButterBalls like this.
  8. DaveBN

    DaveBN Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2018
    Messages:
    9,063
    Likes Received:
    4,875
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Thank you for encouraging me to double check that. It appears I misrepresented his exact words. Still seems to me that he has made up his mind before the trial even begins.
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.po...019/11/05/mcconell-senate-acquit-trump-066103
    “I will say I’m pretty sure how it’s likely to end,” McConnell told reporters. “If it were today, I don’t think there’s any question — it would not lead to a removal. So the question is how long does the Senate want to take? How long do the presidential candidates want to be here on the floor of the Senate instead of in Iowa and New Hampshire?”
     
  9. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2012
    Messages:
    107,541
    Likes Received:
    34,488
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Hardly. So far all that has been presented is opinion.
     
    TBLee and roorooroo like this.
  10. TOG 6

    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2015
    Messages:
    47,848
    Likes Received:
    19,639
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Mitch said "If it were today" - meaning "based on the evidence we currently have".
    This is clearly not the same as "regardless of what any witness says".
    So yes, not only do I see it as different, it is so obviously different, you should as well.
    Do you?
     
    Last edited: Nov 19, 2019
  11. Thought Criminal

    Thought Criminal Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2017
    Messages:
    18,135
    Likes Received:
    13,224
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I still haven't seen anything that rises above the level of opinion, or attempts to connect dots in one particular way.

    Democrats should focus only on the alleged proposed White House meeting. They should focus on proving that there was an understanding that a meeting was contingent upon an investigation.

    Democrats will never prove that there was a link between aid and any investigation. All that they can do is point fingers and give opinions.
     
  12. DaveBN

    DaveBN Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2018
    Messages:
    9,063
    Likes Received:
    4,875
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Hence the correction. I still view it as being no different though. The senate is meant to be the jury in the trial. Do you find it appropriate for a juror to make a public statement that, assuming they could decide the trial’s outcome before all evidence is presented, the defendant is innocent?
     
    Last edited: Nov 19, 2019
  13. TOG 6

    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2015
    Messages:
    47,848
    Likes Received:
    19,639
    Trophy Points:
    113
    "Based on the evidence we have today " and "regardless of what any witness says" are inherently different..
     
    ButterBalls and vman12 like this.
  14. Thought Criminal

    Thought Criminal Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2017
    Messages:
    18,135
    Likes Received:
    13,224
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Is it appropriate for Schiff to be doing what he is? He's going out in public denigrating the President. He's making it look like he's pursuing a personal vendetta.
     
    TBLee, roorooroo and ButterBalls like this.
  15. DaveBN

    DaveBN Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2018
    Messages:
    9,063
    Likes Received:
    4,875
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Yes, I acknowledged that, literally as soon as I double checked it. Thanks again for encouraging me to take a second look.
    On that note, it is still wildly inappropriate for a juror to make public statements that a defendant is innocent prior to being presented with the facts. Before the trial has even begun for that matter.
     
  16. Daniel Light

    Daniel Light Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2015
    Messages:
    31,455
    Likes Received:
    34,888
    Trophy Points:
    113
    TV viewership means little these days, people will watch the highlights on YouTube in the millions. I’m reasonably interested in politics but there’s no way I’m going to wade through this thing on regular TV.
     
    DaveBN likes this.
  17. DaveBN

    DaveBN Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2018
    Messages:
    9,063
    Likes Received:
    4,875
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    How is he denigrating the president?
     
  18. pol meister

    pol meister Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2013
    Messages:
    5,903
    Likes Received:
    2,273
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I'm watching less and less of it, and when I do, I mute the Dems, so as to filter out the insanity. Today I listened in on Chris Stewart of UT, because I think he's the most effective questioner for the Republicans.

    I doubt I'll be watching much more of it, if any. It's just too much of a sham to take seriously. It needs to be dumped into the waste basket it belongs in.
     
  19. Thought Criminal

    Thought Criminal Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2017
    Messages:
    18,135
    Likes Received:
    13,224
    Trophy Points:
    113
    ButterBalls likes this.
  20. TOG 6

    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2015
    Messages:
    47,848
    Likes Received:
    19,639
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I don't understand why you don't understand McConnell made his statement in reference to the facts at hand at the time; this in no way supports your characterization that he made his decision without regard to the facts or that this position is in no way similar to the Democrats impeaching Trump "regardless of what any witness says".
     
    ButterBalls likes this.
  21. KAMALAYKA

    KAMALAYKA Banned

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2009
    Messages:
    4,690
    Likes Received:
    1,005
    Trophy Points:
    113
    It's like you Trumpers live in an alternate reality.
     
  22. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2010
    Messages:
    53,507
    Likes Received:
    18,170
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    No, that's not what the Democrats are doing. They are pressing this farce to generate negative information to sway low information voters.

    See if Democrats were transparent and wanted people to know their platforms nobody would vote for them outside of far left degenerates. They rely on ignorance.

    That's why they tell the poor that they are the answer. It's really diabolical.
     
  23. Lesh

    Lesh Banned

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2015
    Messages:
    42,206
    Likes Received:
    14,119
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Watching Faux huh?
     
  24. TOG 6

    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2015
    Messages:
    47,848
    Likes Received:
    19,639
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Thank you for proving my point.
     
    BuckyBadger likes this.
  25. KAMALAYKA

    KAMALAYKA Banned

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2009
    Messages:
    4,690
    Likes Received:
    1,005
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Thank you for proving my point.
     

Share This Page