If Trump is not removed through Impeachment, will we lose in 2020?

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  1. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    You have heard this over and over from Republicans. And it's not completely out of the question.

    Hear me out!

    This idea actually came from my 11 year old (bright kid!) in a conversation I was having with him a minute ago.

    Here is the problem

    1- We know Trump has Russia on his side. He is now actively colluding with Russia to meddle in the 2020 elections. Our Intelligence Agencies have said so, and even Trump's very own FBI director has confirmed it under oath.

    2- We know Trump tried (and apparently failed) to get Ukraine to also meddle in our elections. But he almost got away with it. If it hadn't been for the whistle blower, President Z would have made the announcement that Trump was extorting out of him. And if he had done that, there would have been no way to put the genie back in the bottle.

    So, my 11 year-old asks, if Trump did this in Russia and Ukraine, what other countries has he done this in?

    I was in shock! We don't know!!!!

    It's very likely that Trump has enlisted, at a minimum, corrupt leaders like Netanyahu, MBS, KJU, Duterte.... NK has a strong cyberwar force. And who would doubt of Israel's capabilities? Those are easy. They have no scruples whatsoever. He doesn't even need to extort them.

    But who else? Has he extorted Mexico to help him out in his presidential campaign in exchange for a better Trade Agreement? How about Canada?

    Putin's attack on our election definitely helped Trump in 2016. And this was done quietly and under the radar. What happens when many countries work to re-elect Trump.. and they don't even need to hide it anymore?

    We need to start preparing for this eventuality.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think so many people will get out to vote against Trump in 2020, it wont mater how much help Trump gets from other countries at this point

    I am still not sure Trump doesn't plan to resign before then... of course he will claim it's for health reasons if he does I am sure
     
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    Have you checked Macedonia?
     
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    lpast Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think you are greatly underestimating the disdain americans have for socialism, far left crazyism and the democrat candidates agenda wish list.
    But what I believe you are underestimating the most is medicare for all and Illegal immigration.
     
  5. Bowerbird

    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

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    You missed one

    Saudi

    What was the first country he visited?

    Look at his recent dealings with them and his past financial ties

     
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    And yes, Trump will win again in 2020.
     
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    How? Are you going to shoot all the Democrats, poison all the millennials, lock up all the college educated women, disenfranchise black and Latino voters, and send all the college educated to men to “swim with the fishes”
     
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    First off I don't know what you are talking about with "its been proven he is plotting with russia to meddle in the 2020 elections", is that so? I mean i'm pretty sure that would be the end for Trump.
    As far as his chances go in 2020, I don't think this impeachment stuff has anything to do with voting. I do see this as a tough win for him in 2020 simply due to this one fact (not conspiracy theories and hoaxes): All the people last election that were like "nah, there is no way this guy would win so no point in voting" will now go out and vote for sure! I feel like just that right there is enough to make him lose. I'm hoping he wins but last election I did bet against him winning and lost about 100 bucks. I didn't think he'd win last time either and this time I think he has less of a chance. I'm gonna bet a few hundred against him this election, that way if he loses I still at least win something. And if he does win, oh well, take my money!

    Message to Republicans: Don't get cocky, VOTE! His chances of winning are not as good as you think and if you want to defend this country from communism, get out and VOTE.
     
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    The answer is, "NO," Trump will not lose in 2020.

    Trump will probably win more states than he did in 2016. (Minnesota, New Hampshire and New Mexico are all in play.)
    Do you really think that Trump has less support than he did in 2016?
     
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    How do you think the Russians are going to gain access to the voting machines?
     
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    Who is going to vote for him?
     
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    Why should they when a) they have almost unlimited access to social media and b) Moscow Mitch is holding up the bipartisan legislation to stop foreign interference
     
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    No. I just think more democrats will vote this time around.
     
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    So no actual evidence of tampering with voting machines. Got it.

    So...what's the problem?
     
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    So you think "Propaganda" is something new.. They do it, we do it and its been used to steer the minds of people dating back before Ancient Egypt.
     
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    its sounds like you're making up excuses preparing for the Democrats eventual loss in 2020


    The nonsense about Russia helping Trump in 2016, its not only laughable, but really shouldn't be taken seriously now
    Hillary won the popular vote, Trump won more Electoral college votes, that is the way our systems works

    As in for Ukraine interfering in our elections LMFAO, really , ever been to a village outside of Kiev, they can barely feed their citizens yet you think they are powerful enough to swing elections ?

    And you have North Korea interfering in our elections? news flash for you, most countries interferes in other countries elections its been like that for centuries

    So what do you say about Clinton( Bill) and Obama interfering in Israel's elections? or does that not count?
     
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    Come on, you think we are Australians Colonists and Democrats are Aboriginal? We beat them at their own game peacefully Bowerbird by giving them their voice, and they win some and lose some just as we do! That was a bit HARSH, well, for most Americans taste anyway!
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Actually, I did list them. That's MbS.

    You don't get to kill an American Journalist and get away with it for free...
     
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    there is no IF ;)

    btw, cute saying 'we' as if it meant us americans...

    rather than...

    progressive, socialist, anti-american, totalitarians
     
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    How did Trump intend for Ukraine to gain access to the voting machines?
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    They didn't have access to the voting machines in 2016. And they certainly didn't need them to extort Zelensky
     
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    So they didn't have access to the voting machines. So the vote was on the up and up?
     
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    LMFAO!

    This is the funniest crap I've read in a long time.

    The average American doesn't want the extreme left-wing craziness that the current crop of Democrats are offering.
     
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    Trump only has his base left.
     
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    By more funny memes?
     
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