Trump plans to designate Mexican cartels as terror groups, stirring outcry

Not at all.

 

I am sure that our spy agencies know who the politicians, bankers, and judges are members of the drug gangs. This might be an attempt to see if they will give up their criminal ways or if they will remain outlaws. Remember how the crooks at the CIA imported cocaine into America and started the crack epidemic.

 

Some people prefer the drug terrorists.

 

If you cannot define the term "terrorist" then you cannot apply it but if you can define it then you still have the responsibility of proving each individual cartel guilty.

Managing foreign policies of all U.N. member-states is the most important part of its' job.

I agree with that.

 

Oh cool. So the only acceptable way for whites to view themselves is negatively.

 

White racism and white privilege go hand-in-hand, actually, because the former gives rise to the latter. Another ingredient is the predominantly white make-up of our society, making things difficult for non-whites.

 

But it goes the other way as well and that's the reason I disagree with your first statement. Just a couple of examples (of so many) are Americans boasting about "American" inventions or accomplishments. If you tell them that Wernher von Braun was from Germany and Sikorsky was from Russia they will quickly reply that both men became American citizens .... therefore aerospace engineering and the helicopter are "American inventions/accomplishments".

 

No, it doesn't. If you hire me only because I am white it doesn't mean that I am a racist. You might be but I'm not and I am not responsible for your racist attitude either so I ought not to feel any guilt over it just because I am white.

 

Not to get too far off topic but my 2 cents is that being proud to be Polish or French etc. is virtuous as it represents pride of an actual heritage, whereas being proud to be white means your proud of a racial construct devised to elevate "white people" above others.

African Americans, by contrast, are much less likely know their specific country of origin, let alone its culture. Thus being African American is their cultural bedrock, formed out of practical necessity. Taking pride in that shared experience is as close to being proud of being Polish/ French as it gets.

 

Nah, "white folk" can be proud of (insert specific cultural background(s) a la french, english polish). That way they both subvert the white privilege society has built for them while at the same time finding pride in a robust and interesting culture rather than a social construct designed to elevate them above others.

 

This is a total NPC response.

Let me see if I understand.

ALL white people have an advantage in life, due to immutable characteristics (totally not stereotyping whites btw, or a Fruedian slip acknowledging race exists), regardless of their finacial situation, whether they're physically or mentally healthy, whether they suffer from addiction, regardless of whether or not they've suffered trauma in their upbringing.

Is that right?

And in America, and the West for that matter, there aren't any non-whites who've achieved levels of success that most whites can't possibly obtain? That's odd.

Surely you've wondered why there's been an uptick in white pride/nationalism/supremacy.

I'll explain it. It's really simple. It's because America, and the West in general, is full of dipshits who out of one side of their mouths say you can't be proud of being white, but then out of the other side that you should think about how it's unfair that you're white.

It's fine though. It's a forgone conclusion that this sort of illogical hatred towards whites will fail. It's actually creating the opposite reaction of it's intended purpose.

SO, you're actually contributing to the problem.

 

I would tend to agree if not for the fact that a big part of the african american DO know their roots as they arrived post the slave trade. Haitians and Jamaicans are, for example, included in african americans.

But I agree that just going by skin color is silly. White would includes european, slavs and a few others and isn't indicative of any real contribution or achievements. Nationality is a better metric as you say. It's also important to keep in mind that past achievement aren't a garantee of future success or the Greek and Egyptians would still rule supreme yet they don't. It's even funnier that presently many of the high achiever in sciences are Asians and Indians, but for the most part, only when they live and work abroad, mostly in the west, and not in their countries of origins.

 

Yeah...

Except we both know that nobody would say such a thing to blacks, Asians, or various Hispanic people.

 

That's how a new country/ culture is built!

USA! USA! USA!

 

Yeah. Ol' Bonespurs is a REAL Chick Magnet:



As far as Trump designating the Cartel as a Terrorist Org.?

How does he intend to keep powdering his nose?



Maybe Don hasn't thought this through (very well)?

 

Agreed, if you do find out what specific racial heritage you have then you should probably go w/ that instead.

 

But while Von Braun achievement were great, he based his work on an American, Goddart (as in the Goddard Space Center) and Sikorsky's work was also more of a perfectionment of what came before (the autogyro was developped in 1923 and the first practical helicopter in 1939).

 

I totally would. In fact I think I just did a post ago.

EDIT: The fact that we don't belong to the elevated group and are still standing is something to be proud of in and of itself, though now that I think of it.

EDIT EDIT:
All you really need to know is that your an American, and there's plenty to be proud of right there.

 

That is very silly, I agree. Not sure how that goes against anything I said! America has its own culture and its own accomplishments. You're citing people taking that sense of national accomplishment to an absurd extent in a couple of isolated cases. To me, though, it's just as silly to take pride in something that someone else does even if they're born in the same country as yourself. That doesn't somehow magically make their accomplishments yours as well. Nationalism is silly in general.

 

The one hiring is racist in this scenario, and you enjoy the privilege as a result.

 

African slaves were arriving in the Islands and what is now Venezuela by 1500. What are you talking about?

 

Nah, that's just a delusion you're allowing because it makes you feel okay about whatever issues you have against white people specifically.

You wouldn't tell a black, brown, or yellow person that they shouldn't feel a connection to others like them that are separated by a mere border.

 

For god sake, read and think before answering!

I'm talking about recent arrivals, not people in the 1500. I'm from Quebec, that's make me a Canadian not a french, even though my ancestors moved here in the 1600.
If someone aged 25 moved from Haiti to the US it doesn't make them AFRICAN american. THEY WERE BORN IN HAITI 25 years ago not in AFRICA in the 1500!
They may be black but they sure as hell aren't african!
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The cartels do use terrorist tactics, and they seem to have gained effective control of the Mexican government, but there is only one way to eliminate smuggling cartels supplying a demand fueled market. Eliminate the demand.

I see no evidence that the political class in Mexico and the US wants diminish, let alone eliminate the massive very lucrative illegal drug industry.

 

Nah. You aren't demonstrating even a rudimentary understanding of white privilege. I suggest educating yourself on what it is before trying to refute it, and if you have demonstrate that understanding by refuting what it is instead of this strawman you've built.

Even if you don't buy it I hope you do so because you seem like a smart person and all ideas should be challenged by smart people in smart ways.

Its part of why its so complicated to talk about it, and why its more acceptable for african americans to take pride in that. For me its short hand for "my ancestors dealt with a lot of ****, but here I am still crack-a-lacking."