George Zimmerman sues Trayvon Martin's family, others for $100M

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  1. Bluesguy

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    They aren't my own facts they are THE facts as presented in court and you can't refute them. The jury accepted the self-defense defense and properly so, Zimmerman had a right to protect himself from serious bodily harm at the least his life by any reasonable assumption. You claim the jury was wrong then present the evidence that proves them wrong. Where specifically did they err in their determination? What was the evidence beyond a reasonable doubt that proved it was murder?
     
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    That is not true to the facts as established in the court. The dispatcher while on the phone with Zimmerman while Zimmerman was in his car told Zimmerman to let him know what the suspicious person did. At that point Martin approached Zimmerman's car and does his dance around it and then reaches into his pants as if going for a gun. He then ran off to the apartment. Zimmerman tells the dispatcher "he's running" and gets out of his car to see "what the suspicious does". He heads to the T-junction to see if he can see where Martin runs to. It wasn't until he reaches the T-junction that the dispatcher asked what is he doing and Zimmerman says he is following him and the dispatcher tells he we don't want you to do that. LONG after he had left his car. It was after that and while Zimmerman was waiting for the very soon to be arriving police patrol car that Martin walked/ran up to the T-junction and attacked Zimmerman.
     
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  3. Bluesguy

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    Please explain where specifically the Zimmerman jury "screwed up" what did they get wrong? What did the Civil Rights Division of the Department of Justice get wrong?
     
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    And the person they advised does it have to take their advice. We don't even know if it's good advice.


    I'm not so sure that don't follow someone is good advice.


    you still don't have to follow their advice.
    so what?
    Too bad Martin didn't call the police
    he didn't need to heed their advice.
    Dispatchers job what is to dispatch police to the location.

    Quit pretending on the dispatch isn't dispatchers jobs it's in the title.
     
  5. Bluesguy

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    That's false you have your timeline screwed up.
     
  6. Bluesguy

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    Using the phone records of the call to the dispatcher and Martins call with his friend they laid out the precise timeline of events in court. And they clearly showed

    The dispatcher did not tell Zimmerman "we don't want you to do that" until he was already at the T-junction NOT while he was in his car as the Martin defenders try to assert
    That Martin had gone back to the apartment and then when seeing the guy who had been watching at the T-junction went up to the T-junction. He was not acting out of fear he was acting in a threatening manner which started back at Zimmerman's car. He then cold-cocked Zimmerman to the ground and then proceeded to threaten him with serious bodily harm at the least.
     
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    His business was as the chairperson of the neighborhood watch in their neighborhood where crime had gotten so bad the police came in to establish the program to assist them.
     
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    The teen who was slamming his head in to ground....... don't forget that part
     
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    You didn't realize you have to wait until you have suffered serious bodily harm, as in a serious head injury, or death until you can actually defend yourself? :wall:
     
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    Stalking someone with a loaded gun qualifies for first degree murder. The racists let GZ off with a lesser charge because his victim was a black teenage boy.
     
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    Oh puke. How many times do we have to hear this garbage. George is innocent. Thugvon learned a lesson too late: do not attack people you do not know.
     
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    It was proven that George was on his way back to his vehicle when he was ambushed.
     
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    Will the killer be found innocent on Judgment Day?
     
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    You are "Gawd", you tell me.
     
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    The phony narrative pushed by the left and the media is still being pushed. They portrayed Thugvon as a 12 year old futute astronaut, skipping down the sidewalk with a bag of candy. They portrayed George as a blood thirsty racist with a happy trigger finger. None of this crap is true. It was debunked. But lefties do not let the facts get in the way of their phony baloney.
     
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    Martin is dead, Zimmerman killed him, we have the 911 call, we have Zimmerman's following him at night, with a gun

    that is suspicious in itself, then we have all his actions after the killing
     
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    I posted links to the news article from July 2014 that claimed he had been killed.
     
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    Then you must also believe Zimmerman following Martin means martin was not afraid of Martin, thus invalidates the self defense

    the threat could have happened when z approached Martin - both could have seen the other as a threat - doesn't have to be one or the other

    your logic is like saying the child shot by cops was a real threat, when we know after the fact the child was not really a threat as it was just a toy gun - people can see threats where no real threat exists
     
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    Suspicion of murder? was he in league with the police that didn't arrest him for that?
     
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    we know he killed Martin, that is not up for debate - I would have probably gone with manslaughter myself if on the jury based on what we knew, the da overcharged and confused the jury imo

    but this topic is really about him suing the person he killed family, sick imo

    what z should have done was what he was supposed to do, just call the cops and report it and let them handle it
     
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    Seems like it was self defense
    I think Martin should have done that instead of attacking a man for following him.
     
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    What would you think if a man was following you in the dark ...first in his car and then on foot?
     
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    I would probably call the police.
     
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    That's what Travon should have done.
     
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    Well now that I'm thinking about it stop and ask him what he wanted.

    That's what he should have done
     

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