‘It’s a Miracle’: Helsinki’s Radical Solution to Homelessness

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  1. Belch

    Belch Well-Known Member

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    We can make it easy for you. Just walk next door to that big government construction site and give it to the foreman who is in charge of building the new Cabrini Greens project so that thousands of much needed low-income residents all with at-risk children can be properly housed. That wonderful school your kids go to will be happy to diversify their academic environment.

    Don't worry. The rise in your property value will more than offset this minimal expense.
     
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    Seth Bullock Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The answer to our homelessness problem is not a house.

    The severely mentally ill need supervision and care.

    The drug addicted homeless need involuntary custody, detoxification, and drug rehabilitation while in custody.

    Those things alone would take care of somewhere around 75-90% of all homeless people.
     
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    And Nancy Pelosi's mansion, and Maxine Waters', and Al Gore's mansion in Montecito, and Hollywood Glitterati's, and the Obama's mansion in Martha's Vineyard. After all, they "didn't make that."

    You know the pro-abortion crowd is always screaming "Who's gonna raise these unwanted kids, huh, huh? Are YOU!"
    Well "Who's gonna house these homeless you're always pretending to have compassion for, huh, huh? Are YOU gonna house and feed and clothe these drug addicts, alcoholics, mentally ill BUMS as they used to be called a generation ago?

    Today, "They're down on their luck." Yeah, right. And everybody else is UP on their luck, right?
     
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    My, my. It's SO UNFAIR to lock up men in prison for, oh, murder, assault with a deadly weapon, rape. Just "get them help," right?
    And set them free, again and again. That'll work. Guaranteed. The only ones we need to kill are innocent unborn, who are unique humans with a beating heart after only six weeks. Call it "choice" and murder is just fine. Even ignoring a full term, delivered child that is "unwanted."
     
  5. CCitizen

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    1) The vast majority of mentally disabled people who have access to free medical care never become violent criminals.

    2) About half of prisoners in US are guilty of financially motivated crime -- theft, robbery, drug dealing. Welfare system makes such offenses unnecessary.

    3) Even the worst criminals have fundamental human rights in Canada, Scandinavia, much of Europe.
     
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    It would never work here, for obvious reasons. Silly to even try and bring it up here as a solution.
     
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    Did you live in that guitar? Maybe you should learn the difference.
     
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    Sadly progressive Democrats cause homelessness, then dump the problem they created on places they look down their noses at. See how de Blasio is moving his problem to a state that he banned for official travel, North Carolina. This is prototypical progressive.
     
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  9. CCitizen

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    I disagree 100%. Someday, a Global Society where all Humans have rights will be built.
     
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    3. Indeed, in the United States, we deny all criminals all human rights. You're so brilliant and observant. You must be a foreign resident, who hates America as much as Democrat crazies do.

    2. Lyndon Baines Johnson declared "War on Poverty"! He was going to end it all with giveaways as never before seen.
    Have you ANY IDEA how many trillions were spent to date? Any clue? How's that "war on poverty" going?
    "I say again, the era of big government is over."

    Stop it Lover Boy, you're killin' us!

    1. The vast majority of guns are never used for any crime, and yet Leftists want to confiscate and outlaw all of them
    There are so very many mentally ill homeless people that you can't dismiss these thousands with your trite little one-liners, which is the constant giggly retort of Democrats across America.
     
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    My tax money should not go to a guy who dropped out of school and refuses to work.
     
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    I have severe disagreements with both Right and Left.
     
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    Hear, hear! Attention all Democrats. Truth makes you cry. And lie.
     
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    No you do not. Stop it. Show six posts you have made reflecting any "severe disagreement" with the Left. I have yet to see one.
     
  15. CCitizen

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    1) But USA was not founded on principles of cruelty. George Washington and Thomas Jefferson opposed torture of the worst criminals who would have been tortured to death in Europe.

    2) Citizen since 1991. I do not view myself as an American.
     
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    1) I disagree with the Left on Identity Politics and Censorship.

    2) I disagree with the Right on Guns and Welfare.

    Both parties on American Political Spectrum are very inhumane.
     
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    In 9 cases out of 10, people who "refuse" to work suffer severe mental conditions.
     
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    Not surprised at all.
     
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  19. CCitizen

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    All Humans deserve Rights. All Humans need Food, Housing, Medical Care. Sadly, most American Taxpayers disagree.
     
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    Appealing to any aspect of Finnish socialism selectively, excluding necessary context, is a perfect example of the brazenness of the Left in all their many stack of lies of omission and just plain lies. What kind of people would continue touting any aspect of Finnish central planning... while totally omitting the recent, well-documented, utter failures of Universal Income and socialized medicine there?

    Creeps and public union bent-nose thugs, that's who.

    Note also that these recent failures are totally omitted from all their lie narratives on the "Scandinavian Model" and how it could work in the U.S.
     
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    Well, we can place them in a facility. We don’t need to buy them a house.
     
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    We tried that. Then we were told that institutionalizing people is not fair, so we mainstreamed them. We gave them all the rights afforded normal people. When they started shooting people, the people who gave them the guns wanted to take away our 2nd Amendment rights.
     
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    1. Zoom. Right over your head. Convicted felons have SO MANY "rights" that one sicko is getting a sex change operation at taxpayer expense. It should be at YOUR expense since you have these outrageous claims. Utterly absurd, but you make them with a straight face, I suppose.

    2. I don't view you as an American either. So we agree on that.
    And since you subtract from the sum total of human knowledge with every post, I can no longer waste another minute reading anything you post. To my Ignore List you go with your Fellow Travelers.

    ciao no-bella
     
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    My idea is to load them all up on buses and drop them off in Detroit. lots of vacant houses there, and housing prices are at rock bottom prices.
     
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    Then at night, sneak them across the river into Canada.
     
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