Liberals lets be real; the Media is completely biased against Trump

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Is the media biased against Trump?

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  1. Lee_Wang_Tran

    Lee_Wang_Tran Newly Registered

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    No matter what you may think of Trump and his policies, you have to be blind to not see the clear bias against Trump in the main stream media.

    Trump has created the best economy of our life time, and yet the media stays completely silent on the matter. We are at a record breaking 3.5% unemployment (I guess cutting taxes for the rich does create more jobs)! The media used to be against the war and yet now, every time Trump pulls out of a war, the media cries foul, and calls it abandoning partners.

    The media cries that Trump uses his property to host international events to make money, and yet chooses to ignore facts like how Trump isn't taking a salary to serve his country.

    I think even the most Trump hating liberal has to admit, that the media is biased against Trump, they ignore all the great things he's done for the country and instead focuses frivolous stories.
     
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    I don't think they are biased against him at all. I think that most journalists see Trump for what he is, and report as such. It quickly become obvious what Trump is. Why sugar coat it for those who don't want to accept him for what he is.

    By the way, everybody knows that Trump is just skating along in the economy Obama created.
     
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    A pro business president, compared to a anti business president like Obama was?
     
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    BTW everyone knows the media is biased and Obummer is long gone. If you see a recession soon, then and only then, will you say "It's President Trump's economy"...everyone knows that.
     
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    His golf games cost about 3.4 million dollars a game. He's earning far more than his salary as president.
     
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    I agree. Trump loves the press. He has for 40 years done anything and everything to stay in the news.
     
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    Trump is not a business man in any traditional sense. He's more of a flamboyant promoter,
     
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    I mean, the media is biased against flat earth theorists too.
     
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    Regardless of whether Trump wins re-election or not, this economy is due for a major correction and its coming round the corner because the last one was as Obama was debating McCain in 2007. Other than the a temporary rise and fall of the stockmarket when the election results come in, the winner of 2020 will have little to do with the existence of the economy before it hits or after.

    It takes a very long time, for a president to really impact a nation's economy that is this large, in a substantive way. It takes three years between his first years budget , tax or regulatory policies to make it through Congress, and then through the planning stages of any major corporate boardroom, and through a its revenue and loan planning, and into the brick and mortar stages of real employment and production. That is assuming the most substantive and controversial policies with real dollars at stake, are not challenged in the courts, or undermined by bureaucracies, foreign treaty or union contract obligations, or a variety of state governments. Now his impact gets a little stronger as each year adds a little more heft assuming he is consistent, but the delay is the same for all those years too.

    If he's going to have a more direct impact it will be through his federal reserve appointments and those openings to don't come up fast or frequently or predictably enough to make a lot of headway towards majority impact for several years either. The president's priorities and impact are incremental and their impact is a lot smaller than we like to realize when we vote for one man to work miracles on our lives through laws and appointments in Washington.

    Brexit may have a larger impact and quicker over our markets than the election of 2020 candidate. So will the impact of climate change, and the perceived impact of climate change already is, and whatever political revolutions may be in store in countries providing cheap labor to our consumers.
     
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    Actually the media tries too hard to pretend his lies are even legit when they know they are not, if Trump wants less negative press, stop doing negative things
     
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    Correct!! “in any traditional sense”.
    That’s why we elected him. We the people are sick of the traditional politicians!! We elected a businessman who CANNOT BE BOUGHT, and we are very happy with his performance so far.
    My life, (and a lot of people I talk to, their lives) have improved under Trump.
    You are not as successful as Trump is if you are not smart.
     
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    He's NOT a traditional businessman.
     
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    Your theory presupposes that wealthy businessmen stop wanting more money bad enough that the incentive is gone to be sold. That premise is absurd. Donald Trump has never really stopped being for sale if for no other reason than to acquire more to pass down to his children. We won't get into his insanely large ego that starts its narcissistic expression by talking about how much money he makes as a 'successful businessman'. I doubt he ever stops thinking of a new way to make a killing - including how to maximize his office to make it.
     
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    I think blind is an improper term.

    I don't think this is blind I think this is knowing reality and completely rejecting it.

    They don't want what is true to be true so they tell themselves it isn't.

    I guess the word for this would be coping mechanism.

     
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    I think that no matter what happens, it will happen independent of his "leadership". I think he just lucked out in the economy, and no matter how one wants to spin it, the growth has been mostly flat. Manufacturing orders are down.

    It is like with foreign diplomacy. If it wasn't for relationships built up over decades, we would have no foreign allies, except for maybe Russia, Saudi Arabia, and Israel.

    Recently, at the G7 summit and the recent NATO get together, Trump was kind of delegated to the kids table as the big boys stood around making fun of him. In the lead up to the 2016 election I was telling everyone Trump lacked the mentality to play on the world stage. And boy, did I ever call that one. He is so in over his head it has long since stopped being funny.
     
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    It seems to me that public appearances has been pretty much the only thing he does. Presidents of times past spent a lot of effort, convincing lawmakers to pass legislation that would help the country along. Trump doesn't do that. He played almost no role in the tax cuts, and never held a leadership role in the misguided effort to destroy Obama Care. He just sat on the sidelines and tweeted and held campaign rallies. Even now, here he is facing Impeachment, and he is doing nothing, expecting the Senate will defend him. I'm starting to think, maybe they won't.

    The House may get away with shameless defence lawyer tactics, but I would think that Senators would take a higher minded view of things. You know they know Trump is guilty, as well as incompetent. I'm sure some have decided Trump's coat tails are to their political benefit, but I'm also sure some must still have a conscience.

    The last poll I saw had 55% favoring Impeachment. That is a majority in my book.
     
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    He likes tweeting and campaign rallies.
     
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    This is why we need Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders to take down the aristocracy. It is the aristocracy that has been sending jobs overseas and flooding society with false information. George Orwell didn't quite get it right. One doesn't need to control the message, as much as one needs to confuse, so that nothing can be trusted. Even the news of the leaders' misdeeds.
     
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    Some of the media and most of the big social media outlets are biased against him, but fox and radio talk shows are biased in favor of him. In the end, it's just how people in the media make money. If you sell coke, then you're biased against pepsi. Nobody can really tell the difference, but everybody knows which one helps to pay the bills.
     
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    As long as the dems and the MSM keep talking about impeachment they do not have to talk about our historically great Trump economy.
     
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    if the economy was really doing great, the interest rate would be higher, the feds are pumping money into the economy in hopes of delaying the crash, they would not be doing that if the economy was doing "great"

    fact is, the economy is close to a crash, could be as bad as 1929 or worse

    there is talk of negative interest rates, that is how unstable the Trump economy is
     
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    Trump has lied about his personal cellphone use repeatedly and got caught, why would we believe him now?

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/do...itive-information-unsecured-cellphone-n924376

    this is from 2018, so if he did finally quit, he lied about it being for years, so he could have quit like a smoker that quits for a couple hours then starts up again maybe

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    Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump

    The so-called experts on Trump over at the New York Times wrote a long and boring article on my cellphone usage that is so incorrect I do not have time here to correct it. I only use Government Phones, and have only one seldom used government cell phone. Story is soooo wrong!"

    seldom used? then where are all the tweets coming from? a personal phone?

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    OK, OK, we are in a depression and it's Trump's fault. Look at all the unemployment, the soup kitchens, and a bread line in every city. So many people look like skeletons and are begging for a job. There is "talk of negative interest rates" and talk of the world coming to an end. I was going to try selling apples on the street but what's the use.
     

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