Watchdog report finds FBI not motivated by political bias in Trump probe

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  1. FlamingLib

    FlamingLib Well-Known Member

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    Of course they can.

    Racist cops aren't A-OK, but the idea that every racist cop is unprofessional is absurd. I've known plenty of racist people who compartmentalize their racism so they can do their jobs effectively. I'm sure you know people like that too.
     
  2. Hoosier8

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    Interesting that the IG report redacts the dates of the FISA warrants. There is no national security issue with the dates but there is a reason they still redact them.

    One of the FISA warrants was released to the Senate Intel Committee to read and return. Following that the classified document was leaked to the press. Vice Chairman Mark Warner requested a copy and reviewed the copy in a SCIF.

    SSCI security officer Wolfe was indicted on three counts for the leak. Wolfe was in contact with journalist Ali Watkins at Buzzfeed. However even though there was direct evidence Wolfe was never charged with leaking classified information and the charges were reduce to one of lying to the FBI.

    The SSCI members Warner and Burr were warned that Wolfe was compromised. The Wolfe defense team lawyers sent a letter to the SSCI members that they would have to testify for Wolfe and would be subpoenaed. This is where the DOJ (Rosenstein authorizing) steps in and reduces the charges.

    Why were they reduced? The investigation implicates that Senator Warner was the originator of the leak from the SCIF and would cause a problem for some very powerful Senators.

    How did they catch the leaker? By providing an altered copy of the FISA warrant for review by Warner. The date was changed on the Warrant.

    So back to the redacted dates on the FISA warrants. Eventually a copy of the FISA warrant was released to the public with the altered date. If the actual date of the warrants were published it would expose the fact that the DOJ hid the fact that leaking of classified information would implicate the Senate and why they let the leaker go for leaking classified information.
     
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    I can't answer that. I can only tell you what the report concluded: bias didn't affect the investigation.
     
  4. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The previous IG report identified blatant bias and since Strzok was the lead investigator for both Hillary and Trump collusion, he ignored the Hillary evidence to get Trump and basically screwed Comey so Comey had to go public and announce reopening the Hillary investigation. The bias was readily apparent and now that this IG report identifies many issues with the FISA application process that puts a very bad light on the FBI it does what I said it would do. Investigate the process and make suggestions. The IG does not have subpoena power so it limited in what it can do and it is also not anything like the Durham criminal review. Since Durham rarely makes any public comments his release that he does not agree with the IG conclusion on the beginning of this should be instructive.
     
  5. reality1

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    Do you remember when the IRS was investigated and we were told it was a minor mistake by a couple of low level employees? I don’t trust our government investigating itself.

    Evidence suggest there was and I’m certain still is bias and it has affected many people’s jobs including the media.

    Trump was elected to expose corruption, drain the swamp. Just as in the IRS case, the Clinton case, and all the others, the swamp protects itself at all cost. In cases like the IRS where the people harmed can fight for themselves, the swamp folds then hides their guilt behind sealed testimony leaving us taxpayers to pay for the investigations, the defense, then the settlement costs. Yay for us huh?

    Hiding exculpatory information from the court for a FISA warrant should be a major issue. All we can do now is see how the swamp handles it.
     
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    So now your position is that Trump is draining the swamp ... by hand-picking his own swamp rats that will work against him?

    :rolleyes:
     
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    Right at five more miles to go before all the truth comes out and the deep state hacks are fully exposed and prosecuted:

     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Washington is a hotbed of rats that you support.
     
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    The Trump supporters have certainly found more conspiracies since this investigation hasn't slaked their thirst for their deep state conspiracy :)
     
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    "Minor" you're not serious.
     
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    The decisions were made at the highest levels which ignored warnings of the lower level staff.
     
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    "Improperly managed and need to cleanup the process"??

    The Appendix identifies a total of 51 Woods procedure violations from the FISA application the FBI submitted to the court authorizing surveillance of former Trump campaign aide Carter Page starting in October 2016.

    A whopping nine of those violations fell into the category called: “Supporting document shows that the factual assertion is
    inaccurate.”


    For those who don’t speak IG parlance, it means the FBI made nine false assertions to the FISA court. In short, what the bureau said was contradicted by the evidence in its official file.

    To put that in perspective, former Trump aides Mike Flynn and George Papadopoulos were convicted of making single false statements to the bureau. One went to jail already, and the other awaits sentencing.

    The FBI made nine false statements to the court.

    And the appendix shows the FBI made another nine factual assertions that did not match the supporting evidence in the file. In another words, the bureau was misleading on nine other occasions.

    The vast majority of remaining Woods violations — 33 in total — involved failing to provide any evidence in the Woods procedure backing up assertion in the FISA warrant application.

    https://johnsolomonreports.com/just...ia-fisa-51-violations-and-9-false-statements/
     
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    Things are becoming even more bizarre. Trump said he would come in to drain the swamp. His supporters cheered. He replaced people with his own hand-picked choices - and you cheered, saying he was draining the swamp.

    If those same hand-picked Trump appointees don't do exactly what you want, you guys now complain that they are "swamp creatures".

    It makes no sense at all, but then Trump supporters are not known for their logic, consistency or rational thinking.
     
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    "Although we did not find documentary or testimonial evidence of intentional misconduct on the part of the case agents who assisted NSD’s Office of Intelligence … we also did not receive satisfactory explanations for the errors or missing information. We found that the offered explanations for these serious errors did not excuse them, or the repeated failures to ensure the accuracy of information presented to the FISC [Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court]."

    And of course the idea of no political bias was quickly and unequivically refuted by the U.S. Attorney in charge of the criminal investigation.
    And anyone can read the text exchanges and emails about the insurance policy and how they could not let him become President. The personal bias is rampant.
     
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    Meh, you can live in your fantasy world where Trump hating and treasonous bureaucrats are normal people.
     
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    Horowitz put it in the kindest, gentlest, feather-plumed words possible. Now it is going to law where words have teeth.
     
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    But we are talking about people Trump appointed himself. Did he hand-pick treasonous people who hate him?
     
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    They are the FBI! Do you think that if they did initiate something with political bias that they wouldn't cover it up? They have lots of resources and can pretty much do as they please.
     
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    LOL, if they don't hate him, they are puppets according to the left.
     
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    Wray, FBI director, said this morning that the present investigation into the origins of the investigation into the Trump campaign is an attack on 37,000 good people in the FBI.

    No, that is totally untrue and absolutely absurd.

    The investigation into the origins of the present investigation into the Trump campaign is a criminal investigative threat to probably less than fifty people who work or worked for the FBI.

    Only the rotten eggs need be worried.
     
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    Pretty much everything in D.C. is rotten to the core. The entire east coast for that matter.

    Pretty much impossible to find any honest people in leftist states.
     
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    What Wray needs to do is to work with Barr and Durham and to prosecute all of those that egregiously broke the law. Corrections to process and procedure are not sufficient because these people knowingly and willfully bypassed procedures and lied to the FISA courts to get warrants to spy on American citizens and the Trump campaign/Administration. This went on before Trump took office and well after the start of his Presidency.
     
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    *LOL*

    It's amusing to observe the Trumpers trash a report that they were all assuring us would find and punish the baaaaaad FBI agents, etc.
     
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    So which is Barr. Trump hand-picked him. Is he a swamp creature?
     
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    Some "low-level" people made some mistakes, but Trump's Fantasies about a "Deep State Conspiracy" were thoroughly destroyed.
     

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