572,000 in 1999-2016

Most violent deaths in USA are by guns.

 

simplest way to avoid death by gun... don't commit crime, don't wallow in self pity

 

all those motor vehicle deaths are far more violent... as well as outnumber most other forms of death... cars are evil...

 

And an incredibly small portion of society

 

Japan destroys your silly assertions. Firearms also facilitate honest citizens preventing control freaks from eviscerating our constitutional rights.

 

I value my freedom rather than the sense of smugness that Gun banners get from restricting our freedom. And those who want to ban honest citizens from being armed-only value the lives of criminals

 

Whoever said the society of the united states was humane?

The argument could easily be made that a society which forces its individuals to continue existing against their will, and holds that the individuals are basically property of the community, is even more inhumane than a society that does not take steps to prevent them from ending their own existence.

 

Criminalizing legal activities to try and combat instances of suicide does not do anything to make anyone safer as a result.

 

Alcoholic beverages provide no purpose or benefit in existing, yet they remain legal simply because efforts at prohibiting such made a bad situation even worse.

Something does not need to provide a purpose or benefit in existing, in order to be justified or legal. If such had to be the case, no individual would ever be allowed to own more than the bare minimum of what was needed for basic survival.

 

Your denial of facts you find inconvenient means nothing.

 

Human lives belong to G-d. All Jews, Christians, and Muslims agree.

 

Most suicide victims/offenders have Severe Mental Disability. They are not criminals.

 

In Japan, suicide is not viewed as a sin.

 

Loss of 572,000 lives in 17 years is a tragedy.

 

Sadly people with Severe Depression can not cure themselves of their condition. I have never thought of suicide, but my Depression is Moderate. Sadly I do many unhealthy things -- I eat much deep fried food. I weigh 155 kg.

 

they were mostly criminals and the mentally ill... ergo no loss, no grieving... society is better off now that their numbers are diminishing...

 

That is a fascist stance. Fortunately, I have not experienced much anti-Semitism.

Sadly, people with Mental Disability are treated terribly in USA. In Third Reich, people with Mental Disability suffered genocide. In USA, people with Mental Disability suffer only Mass Incarceration and public indifference.

 

George Washington and Thomas Jefferson believed that All Humans have innate values. Even the worst pirates should not be tortured.

George Washington and Thomas Jefferson had enormous character flaws, but most their ideas were right.

 

Government has inflicted much much bigger tragedies on its people

 

“No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms."
- Thomas Jefferson, Virginia Constitution, Draft 1, 1776

"I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery."
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to James Madison, January 30, 1787

"A free people ought not only to be armed, but disciplined..." - George Washington, First Annual Address, to both House of Congress, January 8, 1790

 

Such is not relevant to the discussion at hand pertaining to the humanity or inhumanity of a given society based upon how it addresses the matter of suicide.

 

Then the argument could essentially be made, that the actions on the part of yourself amount to a slow attempt at suicide?

 

Wow democide! Could you please expand on this ridiculous statement.

 

It's a drop in the bucket, so get over it.

 

Totally false, it is nearly impossible to have a mentaly ill person committed against their will in this country.