Cruz To Horowitz: Did An FBI Attorney Defraud The FISA Court? Horowitz: Yup

We have the MSM hastily composed narrative flying on electronic waves now, but the truth train is rolling fast.

 

Which is exactly what happened. The IG also agreed some should go to jail.

 

You're right... Spying can be legal so Senator Graham totally mis-characterized the exchange. He should have totally asked if this was illegal surveillance. Thank you Mr. Horowitz for clearing this up for us!

 

What exact CRIMES did the IG Report reference against those 3?

It sounds like you are just repeating a debunked narrative (that the Alex Jones Crowd just can't let go of).

 

I don't do Twitter and I don't watch much TV, but if this is true, WOW.

Thanks for posting it.

 

How would things be going for you -- if you had defrauded a court?

 

I would likely be in Gitmo.

 

You obviously completely misread (or misunderstood) what I indicated.

Either that, or you don't understand the meaning of a hypothetical question.

In any event, engaging you further would seem to be futile, since you don't seem to be inclined to accept the facts.

 

You taking one hypothetical 5 minutes exchange between Graham and Howowitz and falsely implying the exchange is conducive of the IG report being solely on a hypothetical exchange.

Did Horowitz state that the FBI used fraudulent evidence that it created as the basis for a sworn statement to the United States Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court that it used to obtain a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act application to surveil the Trump campaign during the 2016 presidential election? Is that NOT illegal surveillance using fraudulent evidence? You may want to spin it as much as you want and you chose to not want to continue our exchange, but I suspect that is because you are unwilling to call a spade, a spade!

 

very telling

 

Oh they hear us. but they will continue to deny like a river in Africa.

 

To be fair to the party loyalist leftists posting to this forums system, they KNOW that Nancy and company have urinated on the electrified third rail of politics -- orchestrating an impeachment of a sitting president without meaningful evidence -- but they also know that their rogue political leadership considers themselves non-answerable to their voters; and in this they are correct. Since these party loyalists ARE going to vote Dem no matter what, they have no real say-so regarding what their RULERS do. It must be . . . frustrating.

In contrast, what the Tea Party movement proved was that conservatives do actually hold their elected officials to much higher standards to the point that if their officials do not produce in ethical ways then they WILL vote for someone else . . . or simply not vote at all.

 

Pot meet Kettle.

Trump's Voters ALSO support him unconditionally.

Politics 101.

 

You jumped on that reply too soon and so left off the addendum I attached to it pointing out that the Tea Party movement PROVED that conservatives on the other hand WILL hold their officials accountable to the extent of voting for someone else or simply refusing to vote at all. But thanks for the non-response anyway.

 

Given the absence of Leftist hate filled posters on this thread gives me the same conclusion

I also voted for Cruz in the Primaries, and I hope to vote for Cruz in 2024. BUT I always liked Trump in the mix.. that guy would say anything.

 

Fraud and deliberate, criminal deception abound in everything the Democrat Party did with their bought-and-paid-for 'Steele Dossier', along with their 'leverage' of the FBI -- AND YET -- somehow the IG 'report' tell us that nobody really did anything wrong, nobody will be charged with any crimes, and everybody involved in this obvious coup-attempt gets to walk away smiling and laughing.

Where the hell is the "justice" in that...?!

 

The IG identified plenty wrong and agreed some should go to jail but put that on the FBI or DOJ to prosecute.

 

It was “top to bottom” corruption.

And it involved a pattern of behavior. The mistakes were not just isolated incidents.

 

Looks like someone lied to the IG.

BREAKING: Carter Page and George Papadopoulos dispute IG Horowitz's finding that they were "consensually recorded" by FBI informant Stef Halper. Halper did not ask, and they did not consent to his recording their conversations. In fact, Page told me, "NOTHING was consensual."

 

All the coup plotters lied to Horowitz.. They weren't subpoenaed and they weren't under oath.

 

Maybe I'm just jaded to the point where I don't believe in anything our wonderous 'government' does anymore, but I'm firmly convinced that the ground under Hell will freeze solid, six feet deep, before we ever see ANY of these bastards wearing orange jumpsuits and eating off metal trays....

Sorry, but I smell something wafting out of a government 'back-office' negotiation that will never (NEVER) be made public....

. "Aw, now, don't be so CYNICAL...."

 

Horowitz seems to try to appeasement all. His reports too often leave the door open to interpretation. He has done so with his reports since Fast and furious. It seems he leans somewhat left of center. Opening his report by stating that he found no political bias on the part of the FBI was wrong. His report should have more clearly stated that there may not have been any political bias found by him at the beginning of the FBI's investigation but that political evidence of bias was very evident soon after the low threshold of the FBI's opening the investigation was met for this case.

I wont go through all FISA errors and probable illegal activity that transpired but I do question why no one has questioned the credibility and or political leanings of the secret FISA judges themselves who rubber stamp 99.97% of all warrants. This may be part of Horowitz's prohibition and off limits to him as many other people and agencies were.
The judges may not be allowed to be interviewed by Horowitz but I would hope Durham at least explores the reason why any judge or judges didn't question what was presented to them by the FBI and other agencies seeking a warrants such as Samantha Powers who worked for the State department.

 

Demonically possessed?

 

The only power the IG has is to write and issue a report. If there is something to be done legally, the AG takes the handoff and moves the football forward.

 

Looks that way. He's even got "the horns". Not sure I believe in demonic possession, but his testimony definitely evidenced an evil and malicious intent. This is definitely a guy who thinks he's above the law.