To impeach or not to impeach, that is the question

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  1. TOG 6

    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    Still spamming meaningless crap, eh?
    Do you get paid by the word?
     
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    Another who avoids the hours and hours of testimony and compelling evidence, some of it from Trump and his chief of staff. A great deal of the evidence came from current and former White House staffers.

    Another who buries his head in the sand and pretends none of this happened. In other words, a Trump fan.

    In all honesty, I feel sorry for these people. How can you live like that?
     
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    Its simple:
    -WE- aren't driven by a hyper-partisan and obstinate, intolerant devotion to our own opinions and prejudices.
     
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    Others who avoid the hours and hours of testimony and compelling evidence, some of it from Trump and his chief of staff. A great deal of the evidence came from current and former White House staffers.

    They bury their heads in the sand and pretend none of this happened.

    In other words, a Trump fan. They apparently approve of a President who invites foreign intervention in our elections, and they love a President who hides what he is doing from Congress.

    In all honesty, I feel sorry for these people. How can you live like that?
     
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    Who never questions what I say, who can't deal with the issues, and always focuses their entire attention on me.

    In other words, someone to be ignored.

    I meant what I said. I feel sorry for you.
     
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    You trolling does not necessitate a response.
    :shrug:
     
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    So... yes - you get paid by the word.
     
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    Compared to what FDR, Kennedy, Johnson, and Obama did, Trump’s actions are child’s play.
     
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    What a infantile reply. You can't deal with the issues involving Trump, so you make a reply like that.

    Wow, I can tell you voted for Trump. Everyone can.
     
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    You might have a point if any of that actually happened
     
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    Texas Republican Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You can’t see beyond your Trump hatred. And you can’t see the big picture.

    Pathetic.
     
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    You are absolutely correct that Trump cannot trust the people in Washington DC. All of the Democrats and probably at least half of the old-guard Republicans hate him for being an outsider. The ruling elites were very comfortable with all the things they have done for years which were hidden from the public. Trump promised to be a disrupter and someone who wanted to cut the waste and corruption by both elected and non-elected bureaucrats.

    Who likes having an outsider come in and mess with the status quo? Yes, that's a rhetorical question. No one does. Particularly not people who've been shifting and pocketing millions and billions of dollars without the public's knowledge. The people have been left out of government's concern and ignored, except for the necessary crucial vote to make them appear legitimate.

    The people elect an outsider to snoop around and disrupt things he sees are "not right", and what do the insiders do? Try to impeach the votes of half the country. They clearly disdain "we the people" when the citizens wish to change Washington and demand it with their votes. You see the same disdain from old-guard Democrat leaders towards the "squad" and far-left as you do for Trump. The far-left and the nationalists have a major idea in common: Washington's status quo has been broken for a long time and needs to get back to working for the citizens instead of working to enrich themselves.

    Why would Trump trust anyone there? He should not.

    When Obama took office, he gave all the ambassadors pink slips to clear their offices so that he could select people who would agree with his foreign policy vision, which is the elected president's right. He kept some long-standing employees, but booted and replaced others. Trump should have done the same thing. The people who have "testified" against him with their "feelings" that he's "doing things wrong" are largely Obama's leftover people and people who are quite happy with the old guard. Political insiders.
     
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    Given your drivel, it's the only appropriate.
     
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    As expected, Trump's fans buried their heads in the sand and completely avoided this report. They never fail to disappoint.

     
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    We look at the actual evidence not the make believe crap you have and continue to accept at face value. The Horowitz report describes an entire corrupt prices in evidence was constantly being manufactured for the soul purpose of denying Trump the victory he fairly won.
     
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    That is complete nonsense that avoids what Trump says and does. It is pure irony that Trump's fans like you remain loyal to Trump because they avoid what Trump does and says.

    For what Trump has done and said please consult posts 575 and 625.

    I wager you won't do that and get back to me with your response.

    Trump's fans will avoid those posts, too. They did the first time and they will do it again. As I said, they stay loyal to Trump by avoiding him. They support a complete jerk who just recently attacked a 16-year old girl with a form of autism.

    Hate has absolutely nothing to do with it. That is a worn-out excuse used by Trump's fans who refuse to deal with the real issues as in posts 575 and 625. People in the White House, members of the Democratic Party, Americans react to Trump's actions. Actions you avoid.

    One way or another you will prove that statement.
     
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    Stating objective truth as opposed to the dung shower you daily spew forth will of course seem to you as if we are ignoring the anti Trump figments of the imagination you constantly through out. In reality the only thing we've proven time and again is that you are dead wrong.
     
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    You lost the wager. I'll make the stakes easy on you though...you owe me another insult. :p

    Maybe some people avoid responding to your post 575 because they also watched all the news and facts and simply came to a different conclusion than you did as to the level of egregiousness they see in everything which has happened.

    625 reads more of the "Russia, Russia, Russia" narrative. We had a 2-year, $32 Million investigation over that. Time to move on.



    "Attack" is sort of an extreme description of the typical insulting Trump Tweet, but I agree the Tweet was unnecessary. Nice tangent away from 575/625 though.


    Trump is a Nationalist. The people opposing him are for Globalism. Hate has a lot to do with it, as the outcome in the "war" between Nationalism and Globalism impacts the future direction of mankind.

    Yes, "people in the White House, members of the Democratic Party" - Americans - do react to Trump's actions. Left out of your statement are Republicans, Independents and others (who also happen to be Americans). They react to Trump's actions as well. Just in different ways. Is the glass half-full or half-empty, because reactions right now are about half and half.



    If referring people back to a review of two of your own posts "proves" that you are correct and anyone who disagrees is incorrect, then okie-dokie-smokie. Whatever beliefs make you feel good is what you need to do. I appreciate your passion and enthusiasm. :thumbsup:
     
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    Another accusation by a Trump fan that is based on hot air.

    Another accusation by a Trump fan who never addresses the issues raised and is incapable of showing where I went wrong. He just says it.

    Case in point, his last post.
     
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    I have multiple times over the last three years. Not my fault you just can't grasp the reality of your mistaken views and continue to repeat the same hogwash ad infinitum over and over while thinking that people should be required to trod the same sodden ground with you over and over again.
     
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    You said nothing. Your comment is a characterization that failed to deal with the issues, It is a common practice with Trump fans.

    575 showed key evidence of impeachable offenses provided by Trump himself and his chief of staff. You failed to deal with that evidence.

    625 showed Trump's pro-Russian decisions on some key foreign policy issues and you failed to deal with all of them.

    Agreed, it just shows your hero acting like a complete jerk. He is our President for chrissake. This doesn't bother you?

    Posts 575 and 625 had absolutely nothing to do with hate. It shows a weakness of your position that you would use such a trivial excuse to avoid what Trump actually does and says.

    I would love to have posters disagree with me. After all, I joined this discussion group. But Trump's fans like you don't disagree with me. You provide generalizations and false accusations based on zero arguments.

    For example, where in your post did you deal with the actual issues in the two posts? You didn't. You simply tried to insult me.

    That, too, is common practice with Trump's fans. Like you, they stay loyal to Trump by avoiding what Trump actually says an does. You have proven it with your posts.
     
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    Trump's fans say that, too, but it is never true.

    You disagree? Provide an example. PF has a record of all your posts.
     
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    You think I "said nothing" and you think that my disagreement with your opinion was not a suitable disagreement. You have every right to those opinions.

    By the way, I have no loyalty to any politician. I'm an Independent voter. I voted 3rd party in 2016 because I didn't trust Trump to follow through on conservative promises and Hillary was just a total nightmare. In 2020, I plan to vote for Trump, not because of loyalty...but for his policies compared with the insane policies of any of the Democrat candidates. Pelosi, Schiff, and Nadler trying to roll over the votes of 63 million Americans with very weak justification outside of pure-partisan hatred is just icing on the cake for Independents like me to get behind our president for a second term of office.
     
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    Let us know when you can post something that actually requires a response.
     
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    Including all your cross-topic spam.
     

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