McConnell and White House counsel agree to coordinate impeachment trial plans

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  1. TOG 6

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    He's not doing anything the House Democrats aren't doing.
     
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    Cite the article and quote the text to that effect.
    Why do you think the GOP in the senate should be any less partisan that the Dems in the house?
     
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    Democrats followed rules approved by the Republicans during the Obama administration.
    Whereas the Republicans are colluding with the person the charges are brought against.

    I am not surprised you do not see the difference.

    No one expects the Republicans to not continue to be the same partisan hacks they have been since the day trump was elected with negative three million votes.
     
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    Nope!

    Moscow Mitch is just Putin's female cur!
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    The House has provided more than enough EVIDENCE of your BLOTUS's GUILT beyond any doubt whatsoever.
     
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    Are you conveniently forgetting that Republicans attacked Obama from day one?
     
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    There are a lot of competing incentives at work in the Senate regarding impeachment. The way it all shakes out, however, is that the removal vote is at about 56-44 in Trump’s favor. That could, of course, change based on additional evidence emerging, public opinion shifting and Republican senators changing their minds. But right now, it’s just hard to see the Senate trial of Trump taking place with any real chance that 67 senators will support removing him from office.
    https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/which-senators-are-likely-to-vote-for-trumps-removal/

    The Senate Majority Leader is quite optimistic and perhaps need only some polishing.
     
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    The GOP NOT removing the BLOTUS works in the Dem's favor in 2020. It means he is still on the ballot and the Dem's can accuse the GOP of supporting a dictator who violates the law of the land and made Congress subservient to himself.
     
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    Yes, but he still have to face the Republican primaries which as I could see Trump`s challenging hurdle.
     
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    Possibly but right now I am not seeing any viable alternative challengers.
     
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    lol whatever makes you feel better
     
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    The uninformed becoming more informed is the greatest gift, so it does indeed make me feel better!
    Cheers
     
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    lol ok sure you didn't...

    Hint the right answer would've been no indictments come along with the senate trial
     
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    You are the one that keep trying to insert criminal trial into the discussion, it is not a criminal trial and I have never said it was. I said one of the charges are criminal (aka obstruction is a criminal charge in a court of law). So I see that we now need to start discussing basic reading comprehension since we have moved on from the falsehood that “it isn’t a trial”

    Two indictments can come from a senate trial but zero will.
     
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    The other is Obstruction of Congress which only applies to "anti-trust" laws. Besides McConnell could always change the rules to yea or nay voting only. Anyone not present would be considered included but not voting.
     
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    Reality is reflecting a much different scenario. The voters are turning against the dems for pulling such a silly stunt. Impeachment is not popular with the majority of Americans. So far it is blowing up in the dems faces.
     
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    So it'll be just like a trial on CSI Miami...... Cool so if people would stop comparing it to a trial that average people go through that'd be great because it's not like those and using a normal criminal trial as comparison is downright disingenuous
     
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    Aren't you one of those that likes to go around and holler every time someone that supports Trump brings up Obama? Yet you did it here? Hmm....


    In any case, nope, I haven't. But I don't recall Republicans going for an impeachment either, despite a few cases where under the current Democratic Party's definition of "abuse of power" and "obstruction of congress" he would easily have fallen into an impeachable offense. Say for example going into Syria (or was it Libya? I forget exactly) without first asking for Congress's permission and only getting their permission afterwards...believe that he said he didn't have to because there "were no boots on the ground" iirc or perhaps when he instituted DACA and DAPA with nothing more than his pen, despite current law being against exactly the things that DACA and DAPA do.

    Republicans may have been dicks to Obama, but at least they didn't try and impeach him just because he won the election.
     
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    No one is trying to Impeach him "just because he won the election".

    And Republicans were calling for Impeachment over Fast and Furious, the IRS nonsense, Libya, DACA...you name it
     
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    There can be no "exoneration" in a predetermined outcome can there...
     
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    Your BLOTUS commtted CRIMES while running for election and then more CRIMES after being imposed on the Oval office and hasn't stopped committing crimes because the GOP Congress FAILED to hold him ACCOUNTABLE for his CRIMES.

    However since your BLOTUS cost the GOP the House he is now being held accountable for the CRIMES that he committed while the Dems were in power.

    Which part of this do you not understand?
     
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    Calling for it, and actually doing it are two different things now aren't they? One is political grandstanding. The other is FAR more serious and should not actually be undertaken lightly.

    And yes, they are. They've been looking for an excuse to impeach Trump from the day after he was elected. When Mueller's report couldn't do it for them they got tired of waiting and made this Ukraine deal to be far more than it actually is.
     
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    I understand that is how you feel. You've yet to prove any of it though. Insults certainly aren't proof that's for sure.
     
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    The only thing stopping the GOP was the fact that they had no case
     
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    The EVIDENCE of the BLOTUS's CRIMES is CITED in the Mueller report, the Cohen Guilty Plea, the House Intelligence Report and the Articles of Impeachment just passed by the House Judiciary Committee.

    Feel free to prove them all wrong. So far all you have done is express your own feelings WRT the BLOTUS's factually documented CRIMES.
     
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