It’s None Of My Business If Homeless People Use The Money I Give Them For Drugs

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  1. crank

    crank Well-Known Member

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    Agree. Not least because it's simply very difficult to conceive that so many are that intellectually impaired. Ability to understand consequences is one of the most important markers of cognitive normalcy in adults. Such a widespread lack of that capacity would indicate something akin to the health problems seen in poorly considered dog breeds (pugs, king charles spaniels, etc). Kinda suggests that Westerners are losing intellect, and losing normal adult survival senses.

    Let's hope there is an agenda, because at least that could be thwarted. A far better prospect than mass retardation.
     
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    I've mentioned the solution repeatedly. Your not caring for it (because it requires real compassion, not the fake bandaid kind) is not my problem.
     
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    You can't be serious.

    ALL addiction is a result of personal dysfunction.
     
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    rcfoolinca288 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Strawman. I never said she did. I'm pointing out the hypocrisy of the right. The republiklowns have done zero zilch to curb ms13. They voted to denied funding for Trump's wall and you say nothing. Sad!
     
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    Letting their family take care of them isn't a realistic solution. We see the result of that "solution" already.
     
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    That's not what I said. The solution is to create a society in which families don't discard members, and in which individuals don't behave in ways that cause their family to discard them. That is 100% the solution, and you know it is. You just don't like it, because it's too much like hard work, and because it doesn't provide instant gratification.

    Let me also state that choosing instant gratification (enabling) because it pleases some lazy moral code, comes at the cost of a far greater number of future lives. When you choose the wrong cure, and for purely selfish reasons, you do vastly more harm than good.
     
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    You don’t have to keep responding to facts with made up stuff from fake Fox News. Personal dysfunction ? Sort of like the addiction Trump followers have to the wizard of Oz. Whatever, let’s not let science get in the way of bs.
    https://www.drugs.com/slideshow/prescription-drug-addiction-1075
     
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    Well, when you take the non science approach like you just did in this post, expect to be a guesser.
    You seem to enjoy siding with Trump on climate change and illegal immigration and not our military and all 17 security agencies.
     
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    Amazing, the poor are hoarding all the money ? Yet, The rich are at their most wealthy and the top 10% have 76% of all the wealth. They should be careful according to you. The poor are catching up...
     
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    Mass retardation! I like that term.

    Maybe the “agenda” is responsible for creating mass retardation. You bring up a good point when you mention manipulated breeding of animals. In essence that’s what our welfare state here in the US is doing. It is influencing breeding and “litter size” by subsidizing unintelligent choices. From my experience with animal breeding and genetics, I’ve found it is very easy to multiply negative traits like poor foot and leg conformation in populations. You don’t even have to select for it, you only have to fail to select against it. Lately I’ve been noticing behavioral problems showing up in purebred beef bulls. This has been a problem for a long time in dairy genetics but it’s showing up now in beef breeds. It occurs because more obvious profitability traits are selected for exclusively, allowing less easily quantifiable traits like violence or breechiness to become more prevalent. My point is this. In planned breedings negative traits crop up even when not intentionally selected for. How much faster would they multiply in a population if they were selected for?

    So, what if progressives didn’t give up their ideas on planned breeding and eugenics like they claim because of how Germany used those ideas? What if they learned that global domination through creating a master “race” for themselves was too overt, and domination by creating “mass retardation” in the general population was covert enough to escape notice, even though the end result would be the same? Perhaps what we’ve been discussing previously in this thread is genetic manipulation using selection pressures we call “social safety nets”.

    Wow, Crank. You may be on to something here. I’ve never seriously considered this angle before.
     
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    Planned breeding ? It’s Trump and the republicans who are apartheid government proponents which separate the races.
    Germany ?
    The support of Russia, a white supremacy run dictatorship, has grown among republicans from 20 to 40% in the last five years.
     
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    "Non science approach"

    You funny, why you hate'n on me, git yer science knowlege packed up and tell them folks in the link their science is all wrong ;)
     
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    Whatever that means. Is that Trump- language ? Hate ? Heck no....I tip my cap to all Trump supporters, the red one.
     
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    As long as you been slumming around this site, you are saying you haven't heard of the leftist Money pixies?? I find it hard to believe you never heard of Obama Money, he was a Money Pixie! He could fart trillions with a thunderous roar and the scent of a God!!

    Really!
     
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    That IS the science. If it wasn't, everyone who's ever been prescribed narcotics would now be an addict.

    Anything which obfuscates that reality is bad science. Obfuscation in 'science' is almost always political or economic.
     
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    It's crazy talk.. I use it in places I feel it appropriate for the crowd.. But in simpler words, Take your criticism to the folks in the link I provided and stop blaming and accusing me for their science ¯\_(º¸º)_/¯
     
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    “Accusing me for their science”
    Doesn’t compute. Do you have a different science then say, NASA.
     
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    Do you know how addiction works ?
     
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    The interesting phenomenon, anecdotally, is that it's the 'educated' western white middle classes who are manifesting this intellectual deficit most, not their intended targets (the poor, the brown majority, etc). So either they're pretending they don't know enabling is bad in order to lower the guard of their target audience - or they themselves are the target audience. The latter makes more sense, actually.

    Meantime, I also can't shake the suspicion that eugenics are involved somewhere. Would love to know who's running that show.
     
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    Every NGO and most government out fits that work with the homeless will tell you up front that the only thing you should ever give them is directions to some place they can get help.
     
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    Having worked in it for most of my professional life (and at a level you can't even begin to imagine in your worst nightmares), oddly I do. Want to take me on?
     
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    It’s your business if it is your money to give.

    Just setup homeless intern camps. Separate the homeless population out from other people.
     
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    It is compassionate to give but what to give becomes a moral judgement. Giving food insures the hunger gets relief. On the other hand giving money empowers the recipient to make choices on what to spend the money on. Such things like clothing, emergency accommodation, food, transport, court fines or getting out of the cold. Should we assume the worst before we decide food or money?
     
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    Not entirely true. My friend's an opiate addict due to permanent spinal damage. All addictions are personal but not all are dysfunctional.
     
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