McConnell has the votes to block witnesses in senate trial.

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  1. The Mello Guy

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    Were they part of his shakedown also?
     
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    GOP propaganda machine is fierce. They will utilize a senate trial for purely PR purposes & it’ll work. Keep the impeachment articles hanging over the president’s head but shift the conversation to real issues. If Republicans want to continue to whine that Pelosi won’t send over the impeachment articles while Democrats are discussing Healthcare, higher education, infrastructure etc. let them.
     
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    Good possibility they were in with Hunter and Joe.
     
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    Which shows no quid pro quo, unless you are delusional.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Logical fallacy. You must not be aware of the constitutional process.
     
  6. After-Hour Prowler

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    History will not be kind to Pelosi and Schiff on how the senate ran the impeachment.

    They should have gone to court if they wanted Bolton to testify.

    Nobody expects the republicans to do the democrats any favors after how they ran the clown show in the house.

    I guess you will just have to wait for Bolton’s book.
     
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    What crimes? None were cited.

    He was claimed to have "Obstructed Congress" that failed to get subpoenas and use the courts, so he remains on the Constitutional High Ground until the democrats do, and with "Abuse of Power" that too would be remedied if the Democrats again used their Constitutional right to go to the Judiciary to enforce their subpoenas, but they refuse. There is nothing here. He would only be Abusing Power if he did not concede to whatever the Judiciary rules. The Democrats literally have a remedy and refuse to use it, because Impeachment was more important.

    Now, with the witnesses I cited, they all go to the core of the claim the Democrats are making. They are direct material witnesses and all involved in the actions that allowed Trump to ask for the Ukraine to work with our AG, or the actual complaint itself. How they are not relevant can only be an argument made in looney Leftist land.
     
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    Faux News and hannity, or as it is really known as.."tRUMPS propaganda channel"...is all over this OP.
    WOW! LOL.
    Every right winger should ask any defense attorney about using witnesses that will exonerate the client. See what they tell you.
    If everyone of those individuals that tRUMP will not allow to testify could prove his innocence, why not let them testify?
    Something is rotten in the whitehouse.
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    The democrats are all in with the worst possible hand.

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  10. The Mello Guy

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    Well then call them for Joes impeachment
     
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    I’m glad someone admits any witnesses are bad for trump
     
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    Our AG? So he’ll testify? Will he say he wanted a public announcement of a corruption investigation that doesn’t exist? Lol has he announced one? Why not?
     
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    There has been lengthy investigation after lengthy investigation, piss and moaning upon piss and moaning. The articles were formed up, voted upon, and passed. It's hammer time for Judge Roberts.

    Time to put this bravo sierra behind us and keep increasing jobs, keep decreasing trade deficits.
     
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    Ego buddy you've been promising the big one to take Trump down so long it's past the boy who cried wolf crazy. That being said, I'll guarantee you this follows the Clinton impeachment precedent that's been set and agreed upon 100% by dems during that impeachment. They might get additional testimony but even it will be just like the Clinton impeachment, behind closed doors and testimony read in session. You will not get your Bolton in front of millions on TV trashing trump, even if you don't get what you want. Sorry just preparing you to start working on your talking points now before the fall of your dream.
     
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    Did Clinton get a fair trial? Is he impeached if the articles aren't sent to the Senate? Can the dems lose any credibility on impeachment had to happen.
     
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    Not sure if Clinton had a fair trial but im sure Democrats would widely support the same senate trial rules that were in place during his trial for Trump’s trial.
     
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    No.. it just shows quid.... or quo.... I never can keep those 2 straight...
     
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    I'd be lying if I said that sentence made sense... it's like a double negative.

    Simple question... if Bolton testifies that Trump told him to his face he (Trump) was holding the aid up until Zelensky announced the 2 investigations, would you support removal?
     
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    Please share with us where Trump eluded to, "a public announcement of a corruption investigation". A link would be nice. YOU just blindly spewed hardcore Leftist propaganda. Who planted this lie on you to repeat? Do you know about how Stalin talked about "Useful Idiots"???
     
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    Ive no problems with that.
     
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    Me, I do not del with ifs. So, no need for another testimony.
     
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    And the Kupperman case was settled within a month, so the idea that it was too lengthy was laughable. Maybe this will teach Democrats to respect the process.
     
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    Irrelevant. Trump has already been re-elected to the 2nd term.
     
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    "All-in" generally refers to Texas Hold Em, when you only have 2 cards in your hand, and 5 communal cards... so a picture of 5 cards together really doesn't make sense in that context...

    Still rather play that hand than support this

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  25. Egoboy

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    LOL... no it wasn't... not even close...

    Kupperman subpoena issued late Oct and withdrawn early Nov. With that WD, they asked

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    In the filing, Democrats’ lawyers urged Kupperman to comply with whatever ruling comes of the Don McGahn case determining whether the former White House counsel has immunity from cooperating with congressional subpoenas, as Trump claimed at the time.
    ENDSNIP

    He refused and continued his own lawsuit until it was dismissed last week. So Kupperman was "settled", but it's not remotely the test case the D's were using. McGahn is, and that's in its 9th or 10th month... The process is completely broken! So the D's made a new process, still staying completely inside the law and norms. The fact that you don't like it matters not.

    C'mon AN, you are better than that...
     

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