trump rule: the beginning of an autocracy

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  1. Lucifer

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    You got any proof of that?

    It seems that the only times I hear this bs is from right-wing sites.
     
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    Lucifer Well-Known Member

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    Actually I could honestly see a whole new industry be born if that happens.


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    It would be pure republican porn.
     
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    Of coarse you do, anything to defend a political party that has turned their backs on the tax paying American citizens.
    You defend the **** outa them, but would they do the same for you?
     
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    Now that's just an ignorant statement on your part.
     
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    If not for sick and destructive partisanship Americans would be alarmed and concerned with what reality is And this reality is more detrimental than anything in the partisan sphere.

    The Princeton Study looked at two decades of congressional record What it revaeled was that average Americans are not represented in legislation. On our rich elites are. Proving we dont have an actual republic and instead an oligarchy. Fascism .

    We were hardly informed by msm. I doubt most here even heard about it.

    This reality matters. In consequential ways. But what happens is the left will blame the right and vice versa when both parties sold us out and neither represents their voters. This means both voters are so uninformed as to be incapable of voting in their own best interests insuring real deal fascism is what they continue to vote for. Partisanship and tribalism has destroyed their ability to discern a most evil reality. Fascism.

    All that matters is if one tribe beats the other. Have we always been this stupid? Or does the media create and enable the stupidity?

    People once could tell when our reps were not representing us. Now they dont have the wits to even notice.
     
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    No it’s not.
     
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    Very well put.
    I am a Trump supporter, not because I think he’s great, personally I think he’s a pompous ass. I also think he is the lesser of the two evils.
    I think he has some good intentions (lowering our taxes, strengthening our military, etc...)
    What got my attention is how badly BOTH sides hated him from the moment he was elected, I think he really set back the plans of both parties
    to sell us out as you put it.
    There’s no proof of this just a conclusion I formed awhile back.
     
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    Link?
     
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    No problem, the democrats will destroy the electoral college and change that forever.
     
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    Can you link to where anyone in the GOP is seriously talking about any of the Trump kids becoming president?

    And Reagan appointed half of all federal judges during his 8 years in office and the U.S. did not become an autocracy. Almost any president in office for 8 years will appoint around half of all federal judges while they are in office.
     
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    There has been some very bad things happening over the course of 4-5 decades in America. The War Posers Act of 1973 was passed by Congress in an attempt to limit the president's ability to commit the United States to external conflicts without Congressional approval. Congress has repeatedly abrogated its responsibility under this because it is requires courage to make a decision to enforce the War Powers Acts. Therefore, we have slid from one foreign adventure after another from one president after another. We never seem to get around to asking the tough question of Why?

    For the last thirty years, America has been treated to one slanderous, scurrilous attack after another by the likes of Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, and FOX over anything Democratic, Liberal, of government in general (Beck recently recanted and apologized for the damage done by his actions). Trump is merely a manifestation of what kind of damage sowing this behavior can reap. Currently, Democrats and Republicans in Congress won't share the same elevator. I am told by a Conservative Congressman friend from Texas that hatred runs deep in those hallowed halls.

    Trump has accomplished the impossible; he made Bush look good. Every evidence suggests that the majority of Americans (a bit more than 70%) have learned their lesson. There will never be another Trump near the locus of power. Americans have endured more than their share of corruption, self-dealing, hatred, and chaos in the last three years. I can only hope we will survive just one more year without the wheels coming off the wagon.
     
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    Peace? You living in a box?
     
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    But Reagan was not a Sociopath....
     
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    The Party of God has become the Party of the Perv....
     
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    Were you around in the 1980s? There were quite a few people claiming that Ronald Reagan was a psychopath bent on starting a nuclear war.
     
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    I completely agree, there is no autocracy in America. What we have is an aristocracy. It is the golden rule, those with the most gold, rule. Those with the most money tend to be subjects of adoration.

    Is that not central to Trump’s appeal. The adoration of those with money. Is it not also the reason there is so much opposition to Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren? Their policies would weaken the power of the aristocracy and strengthen the power of commoners.
     
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    not wits for the most part information one cannot make an informed opinion when 90% of the shills for one party
     
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    Why is it, I wonder, that I keep getting the idea that the non liberal portions of the population prefer their women high on the bimbo scale. But then, her brothers and dad aren’t all that bright, or good looking, either
     
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    I wonder what happened to Charlie Daniels. What happened in his life to turn his heart so cold and dark. How is it that he went from Uneasy Rider to what he has become? Maybe when he went down to Georgia, he didn’t fare so well, and the Devil owns his soul.
     
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    No, we do not have an "aristocracy" a "plutocracy" a "kakistocracy" an "oligarchy" a "corporatist state" or any other form of government that does not comport with a universal voting franchise, the Constitutional Republic, the Bill of Rights and 5th/14th Amendments, etc., and the many peaceful transitions of power our country has accomplished over the centuries now. The accurate name of a governing form usually specifies where the power lies. In our great Constitutional Republic, the power lies in a DOCUMENT and the law appurtenant to it, representative branches of government, not in "the rich," "the nobility," "bad people," the "few people" or in "corporations."

    The erroneous habit of mischaracterizing our form of government and leaders in a hyperbolic, childish way is almost totally the error of Leftists. There were very few estimations of Obama as a "dictator," more about his "socialism" (understandable in response to ACA), but the LW repeats these errors constantly, many times a day all over the net and social media. Keep it up I guess. It confuses your own base, the bottom two income hexiles, who don't know the terms and don't care, and alternatively annoys or amuses everyone else.

    As far as people with money being adored? Take it up with the rotten consumption-celebrity culture created and influenced by the corrupt MSM branch of the gov-edu-union-contractor-grantee-trial lawyer-MSM Complex and its equally corrupt large crony contributors. The taxpayers of the other 29 million businesses in the non government-dependent private sector didn't do that. The taxpayers at large didn't tear down the family unit and traditional morality for 50+ years. The taxpayers at large didn't rage and mischaracterize the religious as evil or backwards for decades.

    Trump's primary appeal is as a gadfly on the rotten establishment status quo in D.C. that has been selling the well-being of U.S. citizens off piece-by-piece to foreign and domestic special interests for decades. His election was an indicator of a wholly fed up average taxpaying electorate, not fawning on wealth. If the above were correct, Bloomberg would be a shoo-in because he is at least 10x as wealthy as Trump. Good luck with that.

    The non-government dependent part of the taxpaying electorate is learning to translate attacks on "the rich" as what they really are, attacks on the non-dependent taxpayer AT LARGE. Everyone knows by now that taking 100% of the wealth of "the rich" wouldn't amount to a drop in the bucket, it is the average taxpayer that the Left wants to soak. Only the stupid are fooled by resentment narratives based on wealth any more. Recent irrefutable proof? ACA and the cost increases of health insurance for average taxpayers. Other proof? Recent trouncing of Labour in England, where blue collar voters have become sick and tired of abstract LW narratives on climate, globalism/immigration, and wealth resentment in lieu of practical policy arguments. The U.S. Left-Complex has taken the exact same tack in the U.S. as British Labour, refuses to deviate, and the continuing prevalence of wealth resentment narratives tell clearly that they haven't learned a thing.
     
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    I’m sure that what most know about Donald Trump’s business abilities arises from his appearance on the television show, The Apprentice. Plus whatever hype comes from his fawners.

    It only takes a few views of him on the world stage to see how in over his head he is. What kind of president spends his time insulting half of the country? But that is what Trump does. But then he won the Republican nomination by telling you all that all the Republican contenders were morons.

    Trump is rich kid who bought his way onto a reality show. Television made Trump. He was a regular on right wing venues trash talking Obama. Usually going on about Obama’s birth certificate. It was hatred over Obama not having the right lineage that seems to have bonded Trump with his base. Or the right religion. Oh no, a
    Muslim from Kenya come to steal Christmas away.

    At least with Trump in charge, we can all proudly say, “Merry Christmas”.
     
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