'The worst briefing I've had': Senate Iran briefing gets heated

Huh?

All that you are doing is repeating a FAKE Narrative that has been debunked 100x over.

Besides, IF it was (as you claim) a "crime", then why didn't Obama get arrested and charged?

Sounds like a total BS ("But...Obama..." ) narrative.

Anyway, back to the Actual OP Topic, I find it stupefying that Trump is so unprepared (and in so far over his head) that he can't even give a professional briefing.

Sad.

 

I would stay away from the characterization from that website. The quote is damning enough without arguing that it means he is lying.

So...apparently the attack was "imminent," but we "don't know where and we dont know when." That's a ****ing corrupt definition of imminent.

And did you see the quote from Mark Esper defending trump's 4 embassies quote. He said that, "I did not see that intelligence and beisdes, Trump only said 'I believe'".

 

Agreed!

But let's not forget that Pompeo admitted to QPQ in a press conference.

Be fascinating to get him on the witness stand at the impeachment trial.

 

Do you not believe Soleimani was an ongoing threat and would continue his attacks and continue killing our forces and innocent civilians in his terrorist attacks?

 

Strawman. One is a military leader actively engaged on the battlefield directly leading attacks one is not.

 

Are you claiming Solemani had ceased all operations and further attacks? What is your evidence of this?

 

I was quite clear in what I said. If you have something to say then SAY IT. I don't go chasing blind links.

 

If a link supports your position on a matter then copy and paste the relevant parts so we can discuss. It's real simple.

 

That's a dodge.

Answer my question.

 

Not a strawman, it is a question designed to probe the extent of your logic. The reason that Mike Lee got super pissed at Trump's Intelligence Briefing was their unwillingness to answer that singular question.

 

True or not, one persons actions does not negate the actions of another. Its ENTIRELY POSSIBLE, that Obama could have committed a criminal action. That does NOT excuse Trumps criminal actions.

This is not a hard lesson to learn.

 

My questions is the one that has been dodged for days no answer it.

Do you not believe Soleimani was an ongoing threat and would continue his attacks and continue killing our forces and innocent civilians in his terrorist attacks?

 

No a strawman and not a logical extension.

 

"The official stated that it is difficult to pinpoint the burial location of bin Laden because according to the Wahhabi tradition no mark is left by the grave. He stressed that it is unlikely that the American forces would ever uncover any traces of bin Laden."

Well, ain't that convenient? Here are some more fun facts about the death of OBL:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osama_bin_Laden_death_conspiracy_theories

"Hamid Gul, the former head of Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), stated in an interview with CNN that he believed bin Laden had died many years ago, and that the official death story given out by the American media was a hoax."

Another unnamed Pakistani source claims that we raided OBL's alleged compound long after his death in order to blame Pakistan and thereby extend the war in Afghanistan into Pakistan

The Iranian conspiracy theory is that OBL was working for us in the fight against terrorism, and that we were holding him prisoner all that time.

Turkey believes that OBL died on June 26, 2006 and was buried, and that we dug him up for that photo shoot after the raid.

Noted investigative journalist Seymour Hirsch claims, among many other things, that the Pakistani Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) had kept bin Laden under house arrest at Abbottabad since 2006, and that when the US discovered this Pakistani Army chief Pervez Kayani and ISI director Ahmad Shuja Pasha helped the U.S. in killing, not capturing bin Laden.

Various Facebook nut groups claim that "the raid and killing were faked, in a conspiracy to attempt to deflect questions about President Obama's citizenship, or to boost Obama's approval ratings and guarantee his popularity during the 2012 U.S. presidential election."

(My favorite) "On Russia Today, radio host Alex Jones claimed that bin Laden had been dead for nearly ten years, and that his body had been kept in liquid nitrogen so that it can be used as a propaganda tool at a future politically expedient time. In 2002, he claimed that an anonymous White House source had told him that bin Laden "is frozen, literally frozen and that he would be rolled out in the future at some date."

"Andrew Napolitano, the host of the Fox Business program Freedom Watch, said bin Laden's death could not be verified and insinuated that Obama was using the death of bin Laden to save his "lousy presidency."

Thomas Mulcair, Canadian MP and the deputy Leader of the Opposition, has said publicly that pictures of OBL's body are fake.

And do read the bullet points under the heading "Related conspiracy theories." What a hoot!

I don't think we'll ever know.

 

True in its very capacity.

 

After Trump ordered the killing of the 2nd in command in Iran without notifying Congress, you think it is not a logical extension to ask if he could do the same for the leader of Iran?

 

Do you believe there is actual intelligence to support Trump's claim that Soleimani was targetting four US embassies?

 

I asked first days ago try again
Do you not believe Soleimani was an ongoing threat and would continue his attacks and continue killing our forces and innocent civilians in his terrorist attacks?

It is the only salient question.

 

Yes apples and oranges.

 

No, it is not the only salient question.

Because another salient question is whether you believe Trump told the truth and that Soleimani was targeting 4 US embassies.

 

That you claim the overall leader of Iran and the military leader of Iran is an apples to oranges comparison is both facially absurd and irrelevant.

Do you believe that Trump would need to notify Congress before targeting the Supreme Leader of Iran?

 

One is military one is political. One was on the field of battle actively engaged in recruiting, training and equipping terrorist organizations and actively planning and executing terrorist attacks.

Yes apples and oranges so do you have anything other than specious arguments or are you suggesting will kill the Supreme Leader when we have a chance or saying we never should have killed the military leader in the field.

 

Yes it is the salient question but do convince me Soleimani had ceased his recruiting, training and equipping terrorist groups and planning and executing terrorist attacks.

 

The Senate will convict him.....correct?

 

So the Obama administration revoked Anwar Al-Awlaki's and his 16 year old son's citizenship? Debunked? Fat Chance. He and his son both American Citizens were murdered by separate drone strikes. If they were killed on the battlefield in the heat of battle, then it was a good shoot. But that's not what happened. Anwar Al-Awlaki was killed in a restaurant parking lot, oh maybe he was booby trapping falafels? Obama wasn't arrested because he had 2 puppet AG's to protect him.

Why would trump tell the Congressional leakers who would do anything to sabotage his administration........including letting the world's worst terrorist get away by warning him.