Everyone out to Richmond on Monday!

As a staunch 2A supporter and militia movement enthusiast, I have to say this march is a terrible Fing idea. It has 'false flag me' written all over it. This is the biggest target for agent provacateured violence in the history of targets.

But you're going. Nothing to stop it.

FFS be careful, aware and everyone be videoing everything every second.

 

No violence allowed on Martha Lootin' King Day.

 

I thought so too but earlier another thread perhaps somebody posted the full extent and there was one major gray area with no specific wording. ban on "assault type" firearms. In the past that has usually meant most semi-automatic long guns, a mag capacity restriction, silencers, etc. The specific wording can either make this common sense stuff go out the window.

I'm assuming that's the issue.

Actually that particular issue means that a rally or March is critical. actually means they have more reason to be out there than those doing the womans march, who ate marching against no specific thing really.

You could even have a celebrity say many times they've thought about blowing up the state capital and nobody should get offended *cough* Madonna.

 

They're very specific in identifying the characteristics being banned. Weapons using gas powered ejection of spent shells is central because it is that feature that allows for rapid or automatic fire. Then there's the usual magazine size, silencers, drum magazines for shotguns and such. Probably the most effective elements are universal background checks, red flag temporary confiscations if a person legally owned weapons but has become a high risk such as arrested for abuse and finally the reinstatement of no more than one handgun purchase per month. That last is specifically aimed at people who make a living legally buying in bulk and then selling to people who can't buy them legally, you know, gang members and felons.

 

They have banned drones (they don't want anybody to see what is going down). Paid Soros anti-fa thugs are being bused en masse. You know how this is going to go down. Leftist goons are going to initiate violence and that violence will be used as propaganda. Hopefully patriots outnumber them 10 to 1..... that would reduce the chance for violence.

 

They do, it is undeniable.

 

Practically everything in life involves risk.

If we sit at home because we're worried about Anti-Fa or provocateurs, we'll never be able to assemble in public again.

There will be intense public scrutiny of this event -- literally hundreds, if not thousands, of videos being taken.

If the Left initiate violence -- and are seen to do it, i.e. don't succeed in making it look like something the patriots did -- then that will be a victory for us.
There is a paradox here: in physical warfare, it's a victory for the enemy when someone on your side is injured or killed by them. But in political warfare,
in a law-governed democracy, it's a victory for OUR side when we suffer violence at the hands of the other side. Most people in liberal democracies like ours oppose physical violence against their political opponents. The KKK was a great aid to the Black civil rights movement for this reason. It helped them win national sympathy and pressured the government into extending the protection of the law to Southern Blacks, ... which broke the Klan there, eventually.

So ... although I do not want this to happen ... if antiFa or some similar deranged Leftist or group injures or kills some of us tomorrow ...that will be a great victory for our side. It will win sympathy for us from middle America. If, on the other hand, some patriot, enraged by being hit by a rock thrown by the human garbage of anti-Fa, pulls out his Glock and sends his assailant to hell, that will be a victory for them, and a defeat for us.

Liberals are a rapidly dying breed in America, but they still exist in large numbers, and they do not believe in violence against people who are protesting non-violently. So violence against us will help drive a wedge between them and the (growing) 'Progressive' community to their left.

There is no doubt that the militia movement is penetrated by the FBI, but I don't believe they will try to pull any 'false flag' operations. They're sill cautious from the reaction to COINTELPRO fifty years ago. They're just there to spot any more Timothy McVeighs. (And so they should be.)

I think the real danger, to be honest, will come from 'genuine' Right wing lunatics, for whom their weapons are substitute penises. These people have been spouting enormous volumes of hot air, and excreting bullshit by the kiloton, in various public forums, with respect to events in Virginia: "Arrest the governor and try him for treason", "The UN is sending troops to disarm us!" "I'll be there fully tooled-up, and they can't have my gun but they can have all the bullets they want" etc etc. Hopefully they'll stay home on Monday. Most of them will probably be in school.

Another threat will be the neo-Nazis and the Confederate Flag obsessives. If just one Confederate flag appears, much less a swastika, the mainstream media will be all over it. So I hope patriots tomorrow, if they see a Rebel flag or a swastika, will swiftly take it into custody for safe keeping.

By the way, it's interesting that this demonstration is being supported by the radical leftwing Socialist Rifle Association. (I have a mental image of some them, and some of us, getting together in a bar afterwards and arguing about the relative merits of the latest generation of nightvision optical equipment and the AR15 vs the AK47 -- genuine gun-nuts (sorry! but they're just tools, to me) actually have a lot in common.)

 

If you wanted to have fun in Virginia you wouldn't go to Richmond, but head for Virginia Beach.

 

It is by a new law the nervous governor pushed through. Other areas are by Federal law. If you followed second amendment rights and Federal laws you would understand that fact.

 

Sorry about your fear of inanimate objects.
With less than 12 years left before the world ends, owning a gun may be the most important survival tool one can have during the next 11-1/2.

 

Who's side?

 

Good luck VA. Watching with great interest and hope.

 

The VA National guard are under the command of Governor Coonman. In VA they will likely be tasked to subvert the Constitution, not defend it.

Maybe you can enlighten us as to how the National Guard protected people after Katrina.

 

Which shows how easily laws designed to protect rights are subverted by left wing judges and politicians.

 

Guns don't kill. People with guns kill. It's not the inanimate object that worries me, it's the mental state of the person holding it that concerns me.

 

Then deal with that.

 

they'll be plenty of anti-gunners posing as defenders of the 2nd amendment & then shoot the place up...

yep, they're that crazy, anything goes as long as it leads them to gun confiscation...

 

I don't think the 'other side' are likely to do anything so crazy as to start shooting. Of course, this statement is a hostage to fortune... we'll know in about 24 hours.

Someone made a good point: patriots who have not done their military service, and who are under 36 years of age, should, if at all possible, enlist in the National Guard, and maintain your enlistment for as long as possible. It does require taking about 3 months off ... to do Basic Combat Training ... so it's not something everyone can do. A good idea would be to push for the President to introduce some sort of reform, allowing people to enlist in the Guard by taking their training in one-month chunks, which might accommodate people with jobs.

College students should definitely enroll in ROTC, and school students in Junior ROTC where it exists.

Assuming turbulent times are coming -- and I believe that's a reasonable assumption -- patriots must have the closest possible ties with the military, first of all, and with the police as well.

There is a ridiculous fantasy among some members of the militia movement, that in a future civil war, they could defeat the American military. Total nonsense, assuming the military remains intact. The progressives are doing their best to hollow out the military in various ways, but even the most demoralized rifle company would make short work of a bunch of citizens with their AR15s in any sort of normal engagement. And as for the 'guerilla war' fantasy, at the 'best', the militia members would end up like Che Guevara in Bolivia. However, in a future scenario of social/political disintegration, the military will not remain intact, especially assuming that the patriots are well embedded within it. The military is a reflection of society, and subject to all its contradictions.

In the meantime: Go Guard! Here: https://www.nationalguard.com/ And here, for ROTC: https://www.goarmy.com/rotc.html

 

Sure.

There will be alot of "Videos".

The RW will PLANT people to provoke "confrontations", and then record False Flag Videos (provoked by RW Plants) that they can blame on their sworn enemies (The Big Bad Left)..

And, it will only be a matter of time before the Paid Reddit/Breitart Troll Squad will start spamming the internet with these "outrageous" videos.

Eventually, it will be picked up as a Faux Outrage "Headline" (courtesy of Breitbart, Faux Comedy, Etc.).

Then there will be MULTIPLE Threads started about it at PF, as those inclined try to one up each other in venting their faux outage.

That is usually how things like this play out.

The RW spreading videos of problems" cause by PLANTED RW "Agitators".

Why would this thing in Richmond be anything different?

 

The side of those who want citizens to have the right to own assault rifles.

 

I would be grateful for examples where this has happened in the past. Or just one example.

 

I wonder why??

 

I fear there will be violence and it will be brought by conservatives. Remember that they are there to protect their right to carry weapons so they can feel like cowboys in the old west.

 

It would be pretty cool to see a bunch of socialists marching with the pro-Constitution side.

 

Semi autos do the same thing, are you aware of this? Using the force of recoil to work the action, end result is indentical. Does 3 operations, eject the spent case and simultaneously, cocking the firing pin back and reloading.