Everyone out to Richmond on Monday!

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  1. FatBack

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    No one is interested in how you feel when you hold a gun.
     
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    I seriously doubt that.
     
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    Nailed it. There are some left-wingers like that, who obsess about guns and the 2nd amendment, but they don't hold a candle to the loonies on the Right, who eat, sleep, and breathe guns.

    What's always amused me is the gun nutters will go on about guns and the 2nd amendment, and then identify as Christians, oblivious to the irony.
     
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    One of the media wonks label led this a white nationalist gathering. It is being set up to vilify those going.
     
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    It appears you know little about guns or Christians.
     
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    You seem low info. Can you elaborate?
     
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    Lol...Guns aren't the only thing extremists like to use, so watch out for pudgy skinheads with cars or nervous foreigners with backpacks.
    The governor already told the white suprematists and other extremists that they are not welcome and to stay away.
     
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    All of this is unconstitutional
     
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    The above is a lie narrative, never happened, as Trump's quote in context proves irrefutably. No debate possible after reading the context linked in the complete debunk below, so hope you won't be parroting the "very fine people" lie narrative further after reading it. You are an honest person, right?

    https://www.scottadamssays.com/2019/04/30/the-fine-people-hoax-funnel/

    To the topic, there will be TONS of cameras on the ground at this, so if you do go, mind your Ps and Qs, don't get trolled or baited into violence response.
     
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    Don't expect the cops to follow that rule.
     
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    If I could walk that much I would.
     
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    Screw those pea shooters I want my m-60 machine gun and grenade launcher.
     
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    Doug1943 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Religion, for some reason, always gets a complete pass, when it appears to conflict with what people want to do. Christianity hasn't been the movement of the poor and meek since about 300 AD; Islam doesn't even pretend to disavow violence. A lot of airheads fifty years ago decided they would become nice spiritual Buddhists, but the Hindu Tamils of Sri Lanki or the Muslim Rohingyas of Burma could testify to the ability of Buddhists to stop meditating and start butchering without taking a breath.

    And when you read about an isolated Christian fundamentalist group led by a strong male personality, you can absolutely bet he is, or soon will be, screwing all the females over 7 years of age. Can't get around old Darwin.

    I think the gun thing -- which I support absolutely, in the present period -- has to do with cultural origins: these folks are the descendants of Protestant settlers and just don't trust the benevolence of the government, plus having a strong individualist streak.

    Plus all normal men like weapons, especially when they're young. It's a guy thing. Look at the video games.

    When the Left was producing radicals, fifty years ago, it was bombs, not guns. But they weren't very good at it. Since then, most of the terror in the US has come frm the 'far Right': Christian Identity (now there's some irony), the Order, and similar white supremacist groups. Their descendants are still around and are a millstone around our (the Right's) neck. Many people on the Right believe these neo-Nazis etc are Leftist sock puppets, but I doubt that very much.

    Anyway, hopefully they will keep away, or will be kept away, from Richmond tomorrow.
     
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    Doug1943 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes it would.
    And if some suicide-minded Anti-Fa turned up to throw rocks, we could try to maneuvre the Socialist Riflemen in between us and them.

    The whole gun-control thing has presented a dilemma for the Marxist Left. There is absolutely not the faintest shadow of a doubt that a genuine Marxist must oppose gun control. There's a famous quote from Lenin to the effect that an oppressed class that does not strive to learn to use arms and to obtain them, deserves to be treated like slaves. On the other hand, these people float in the pond of radical middle-class snowflakery, whom they do not wish to offend. So they've mainly kept their mouths shut about the issue.
     
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    It's not impossible that something like this may happen. There is a distinct trend of pro-2A people who are huffing and puffing with phrases which come close to being seditious. However, I believe (hope) that these are the usual blowhards who will not lift a finger to defend their rights, much less pull their trigger finger. The people who are organizing the march have been adamant that they don't want any trouble -- they are urging people not to wear camouflage, not to carry long arms, etc. For obvious reasons.
    If there are any rightwing people who do start violence, they will of course be strenuously disavowed by every conservative, pro-2A, pro-Constitution organization present.

    Just like leftwingers strenuously disavow the violent attacks by anti-FA, and by student radicals against conservative speakers on campuses.
    They do, don't they?
     
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    Free choice, man.
     
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    Papers please!!!
     
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    Doug1943 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Just in from the Virginia Citizens Defense League:

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    IMPORTANT REQUEST: We need 10,000 patriots to fill the Capitol grounds for Monday's rally!

    Unfortunately, the Virginia Supreme Court just said they did not have enough information on the stay denied by the lower court to issue their own stay, so the Governor's illegal gun-ban on Capitol grounds is going to stand for this event.

    Here is what we need to do on Monday to make the rally a success:

    DETAILS:
    1. VCDL needs at least 10,000 members/gun owners to commit to "taking one for the team'" by entering the Capitol grounds unarmed around 10 am and being in place for the rally by 10:45 am. Those who were lobbying will already be unarmed, so we urge them to be part of the 10,000 inside the fencing. NOTE: knives with folding metal blades less than 3-inches long are ARE permitted both in the General Assembly AND on the Capitol grounds.
    2. For every one gun owner on the Capitol grounds, we need another two to five people outside the Capitol grounds's fence on 9th Street. Those doing so can be legally armed.
    If you can commit to being one of our needed 10,000 unarmed members inside the fence, please help us by asking several of your family and friends to be your designated armed escort to the gates and to stand outside the fenced area to watch over us.

    WHY:

    We are separating our responsibilities, in this otherwise untenable and unconstitutional situation foisted on gun owners by Northam. Gun owners standing, both inside and outside of the fence, ensure that the Capitol grounds and the surrounding area is filled to capacity to hear our speakers and it will make a great visual for the cameras!

    For those who are going to be on the Capitol grounds, the less items you bring along, the quicker and more efficient the screening.

    VCDL will have loudspeakers so that those outside the fence will be able to hear. The event will also be broadcast live on WRVA radio, 1140 AM /96.1 FM.

    IMPORTANT:

    We ask everyone to follow the temporary Capitol grounds rules. There is NO need for an act of civil disobedience to achieve standing for a court fight. We already have standing.

    We still will have our day in court to fully debate the governor's unconstitutional overreach in just a few short weeks.

    Thank you very much for your support and understanding. The Governor and his cronies would like nothing better than to see the Capitol grounds empty, with the speakers talking only to themselves. We simply cannot let that happen.

    PLEASE CHOOSE ONE:

    • Arrive temporarily UNARMED and go INSIDE the fenced area on the Capitol grounds or
    • Stand with us, LEGALLY ARMED if you so choose, just OUTSIDE the fence and watch over your brothers and sisters inside the fence
    Either way, we'll see you there!

    FINAL NOTE:

    Monday is going to be a day of lobbying, with a peaceful rally. All law-abiding citizens are invited. The Capitol, State, and Richmond police forces will be providing strong security. We thank them in advance for helping make sure that the event is a safe and fun event.
     
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    The left cannot be allowed a monopoly on the right to have demonstrations.
     
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    A racist and a guy in blackface walk into a bar. Which one is the Governor of Virgiania? Great line.
     
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    Or rebels in old south, as this case may be...

    Hope for the best in Richmond tomorrow, but the low IQ element is gathering... anything can happen.
     
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    So?
     
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    Now you know, instead of sounding uninformed.
     
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    I just listed the criteria used by the legislature. That's called informing people rather than trying to persuade using rumors or going off on tangents.
    Speaking of which, did you know there's a legislator getting death threats for his gun control law he wrote even though it had nothing to do with guns and didn't mention guns? Why? Because zealots believe any bull put out by fellow zealots.
     
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    You kept mentioning something about "rapid fire" as though there is something especially unique about a gas operated action
     

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