Educated vs "Non-Educated"

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  1. crank

    crank Well-Known Member

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    1) Yes, parental commitment. All else is accessible and available (public schools, public libraries, scholarships, etc) to everyone.

    2) Anyone CAN do it. That so many choose not to, is quite beside the point. If you have a problem with the choices people make, then you have a problem with people, period.

    3) What can be done about it - for anyone who cares - is NOT be an apathetic parent yourself. That's all any of us can do.
     
  2. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    You are doing no more than attempting to engineer blame. And, you're failing even at that.

    What we need is improvement in getting our kids through college.

    How about resetting your focus toward that objective?
     
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    So just a different marketing strategy for the same old thing. Gotta keep those insurance companies happy so the campaign contributions keep coming.

    I’m shocked! More proof these schemes are predicated on wielding power. FYI I won’t ever affiliate myself with the GOP in large part because of their position and actions on healthcare. Just because I fall on the conservative side of some issues doesn’t mean I’m going to accept a crap sandwich from a Republican.

    That was the point of the ACA. Most people fell for the story that it would fix things. It was a set up for a future leader to offer mediation between the common man and the wrathful god of sickness and disease in exchange for further relinquishment of autonomy.
    In short, they insured that which they could afford to pay out of pocket. Intelligent people never insure what they can afford to replace themselves. Didn’t they teach you that in school? :) Surely the government incestually involved with the insurance industry would teach this in their schools, right?

    Define collectivizing. I don’t recall using that term. Did I?

    You are correct. The textbook definition of socialism is quite different.

    I’ll bet government school did teach you the basis of government is redistribution of income. Another shock. :)
    Have you ever read a treatise on role of government and one paragraph waxes eloquent on the role of government in protecting private property rights. A few sentences later it does the same on the subject of redistribution. And most gobble it up because.....authority I guess! :)

    Sorry, I don’t play that game. When you are required to buy me a Mac book pro, all the Schwann’s ice cream I can eat, and the electricity to run my well, you can get back to me on healthcare being synonymous with national defense.
     
  4. dagosa

    dagosa Well-Known Member

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    OJ didn’t stab anyone. Just like Trump didn’t get Russian help in 2016.
    The inability to prosecute a white hair old grandmother is an indication of the
    lack of competence of the gop.
     
  5. WillReadmore

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    Trump's guys couldn't find anything to charge her with.

    Our justice system has locked up and/or fined an unbelievable number of Trump administration criminals, including those from his campaign, his lawyers, his pals like Parnas, the Russians he knows (indicted), his charges against his family fake charity and finally his own persional impeachment!

    That is a shocking situation.

    And, it shows there is NO QUESTION where the swamp is - in the oval office.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I could not agree more - and when a Blue President was in power it was even worse - can give you reams of examples. The Romney clown - the supposed "Business Candidate" claiming the job problem was Obama's fault - and blaming Obama for the 2009 deficit.

    They did the same with Clinton - and the Witch Hunt - how many inches slick willy inserted into monica's oval orifice was somehow relevant to whitewater.


    Then you get into a bunch of examples - some of which true - others ?? not so much. Giving ME and Libya to the Russians - happened under Obama - sorry - but I call a spade a spade - and you should know better by now.

    The Kurds were also Obama's mess.. but even so suggest a better option than what was done ?
     
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    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    Comparing ice cream to healthcare is pretty much exactly what is wrong with the Republican party today.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is complete - demonstrable BS -

    You are talking what was stated publicly at the time - on numerous occasions - the State Department Narrative - which was a lie - pure propaganda ...

    Did you not get the memo ?

    All kinds of articles can be found on Obama deciding to arm the rebels 3-4 yrs after the war had started..

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/sep/19/us-weapons-to-syria-repeats-historical-mistake

    but as we know now - Obama had been arming the Syrian Rebels the whole time.

    Please do not post further on the assumed premise the propaganda narrative is True ... when it is a demonstrable lie - as shown to you repeatedly.

    Are you still trying to claim that Obama did not know what the CIA was doing ? - That the DIA was lying in its internal memo's - about rebel movement being taken over by Islamists ? - That Congress is lying - bipartisan - in some plot to take down Obama .. and that the rebels got all those weapons from Santa ?
     
  9. dagosa

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    I get a kick how the gop disses Parnas. What do they think, a criminal like Trump is going to surround himself with honest, trustworthy people ? Like” we can’t believe this guy, he’s Trumps right hand man and can’t be trusted .”
     
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    Your sounding like a rightie now.
    Everyone is wrong but you. :)
     
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    The gop never had, doesn’t now, or will they ever have a HC plan. Heck, they were happy getting their donations from private insurance while 20,000 plus uninsured people died every year.
    The gop’s idea of good healthcare plan, is one that makes enough profit to pay off republicans. That anyone in particular gets insured is irrelevant. Private insurance is just a collection agency.
     
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    Reading comprehension not your thing. It’s common here...
     
  13. dagosa

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    It’s pretty much scene dependent. It there’s nothing else going on, sure. Otherwise, you can loose the impact of a lot of visual content trying to read two lines accurately. It’s impossible for the reader to put inflections in the way an actor is trained to do. I’d rather see a half asteroid dubbing job at times.
     
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    It’s of no interest to you that the share of donations from insurance going to Democrats increased significantly around 2008. Or that today a higher percentage are going to Democrats than ever. It’s almost 50-50 now.

    That said, the GOP approach to healthcare sucks almost as bad as the DNC’s. That’s almost reached 50-50 as well.
     
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    None that aren't much poorer than this country.
     
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    Well, since he was referring to me, he's right. @Texas Republican is upset because I don't support the Orange Oaf.
     
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    Does it bother a Republican that a poor persons live might be saved by universal healthcare.
     
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    Everyother country in the world that has free choice has universal healthcare.
     
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    You could ask one. I don’t know. Does it bother a progressive that a person’s life might be saved by a firearm? Or that a person’s life might be saved by mandating compulsory exercise regimens?
     
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    I agree--they won't "do the right thing." Rich people in general are quite content to screw over poor folks.
    There are ways to regulate capitalist enterprises, but it has to be fair, decisive, and not overly bureaucratic.
     
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    Not relevant unless you are a lemming. Are you a lemming? Want to address the fact Democrats take almost as much money from the insurance industry as Republicans? Of course you don’t.
     
  22. LangleyMan

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    They typically can't explain the difference between Liberal and liberal, or for that matter, Communist and communist, and Conservative and conservative.
     
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    Hillary has left a trail of slime from when she hit the public stage. How about the cattle futures?
     
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    Why hasn't the Trump DoJ prosecuted her? Are they incompetent? Are they part of a coverup? Does Trump know what's going on? Is he pulling strings?
     
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    One of his many weaknesses.
     

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