Educated vs "Non-Educated"

Education is just another way from thousands of different ways of living and NO ONE can say which way is better.

 

I hear you. You’re reading my mail.
Typically, going through life identifying with a label will get one in trouble. One of the most liberating things one can do politically is to talk issues. The “ ism “ culture is strange indeed. I don’t know that half the people that use “ isms” ( Marxism’s, communism etc. ) really care about issues.

Really, nearly half the right now in polls identify more strongly with Russia and less with our traditional allies. Geesus, forget the “isms” man, one has free elections and one doesn’t.

 

Not relevant ? That’s the most relevant issue . It means that people are electing officials that give them what they need to survive....affordable healthcare. The “ free enterprise system.” never worked for fire, police , the military and it certainly doesn’t work for healthcare insurance. 20k people dying a year needlessly is of no concern for the free enterprise system, as these people could not afford health insurance or went bankrupt trying to pay for it.

Money from insurance companies ? Gee, that’s a good argument for eliminating citizens united.

 

Nah, it just means more and more people never want to grow up and take responsibility for themselves and their fellow man. Easier to get the state to force others to do it for you. Still no comment on the millions of dollars democrats are pocketing from the insurance industry? No thought process about what it means?

 

That’s laughable. If your dad’s mill closes and his middle class job is lost and their entire health insurance is lost, fk em ?
The family never grew up ?
90% of the jobs lost during the Bush recession were MIDDLE CLASS jobs....not poor people. The ACA was run through to save their lives. The right just stood by and said, fk em. The right is a recession generator. Their economic politics are deadly for the middle class.

So, where are you saying Democrats get as much money from insurance companies....reference ?

 

For sure.....
The economics of fair regulation is elusive to the right. Pollution was not caused by excessive pollution regulations of the free enterprise system.....it was non regulation.

 

So you’re in favor of socialism. Cause all that s.h.i.t. Is socialism .

 

It’s only statistically better if you want to live “longer and prosper.” as a civilization.

 

Well everyone will be educated at some point. After all life is full of experiences and that's a very powerful way of getting educated.

 

People with more then a high school education live up to seven years longer and earn twice as much. So it’s not about just hanging around. It’s about who you hang with and what you do.

 

Reasonable. But that's statistics of a good and developed country . I can say that being educated is good but being uneducated isn't bad.

 

Better health and living longer should be expected. Generally, they would have had better health care while before they went out on their own and possibly could not afford as good a health care later in life and the job their job is more likely to be dangerous.

I am having trouble figuring out what this discussion is all about. Getting an education is a good thing. Some leave school at the end of twelve years and don't want to sit another hour in a classroom. Some go no further for economic reasons, but that is generally a pretty flimsy excuse. Just about anyone can go on to get a college degree, if they are willing to work for it. Trade schools are an option. The opportunities are there. It is not by duty or anyone else's to say they are wrong It depends on what makes you happy.

 

Of course not. Nothing though is inherently good or bad. But we know for a fact, people’s “ education” and absorption of knowledge is as much dependent upon their environment as anyother factor. The same person who became a good person and provided could be an “excellent “ ( efficient) drug dealer or even a terrorist in a different environment. Abuse and/or neglect will do that to anyone. And it doesn’t have to be overt even in a good and developed country.

 

Making more money and living longer would go a long way towards being happy.

 

Yes. I look at health and wealth as contributors to freedom of choice. They both provide a bit more opportunity then not. No guarantee....

 

Rich will not make you happy. I have know a lot of people who are very happy, but far from rich. It is more of a matter of how you feel about yourself and the rest of the world.

 

You don’t want to hear the real story of my dad and health insurance. It’s 180 degrees from your narrative and a big part of what helped me “grow up” understanding this issue from the other side.

The ACA has been a progressive wet dream for decades. Remember the First Lady’s work during President Clinton’s administration? You may be right that again the Democrats saw a crisis they couldn’t let go to waste, but the ACA was not to save lives in a recession. In fact, Democratic politicians burned so much political capital ramming it through with little support at home, it hampered their ability to move climate legislation after the passage of the ACA.

Remember, I hate the right’s approach to healthcare, too. The thing is, I’m an equal opportunity kind of guy. That said, in this case, doing nothing is better than the “something” Democrats came up with.

I have a good source for my assertions. But first, let’s ask this question. If you don’t know the facts, why did you bag on Republicans for taking insurance money and not Democrats as well? Either you don’t know what you are talking about or you are operating from a partisan position and don’t care about facts.

 

I didn't say rich, just better off. Having a better job and getting paid more helps. I don't know many poor people who are happy, maybe some are. If you offered them a pay rise, or a job if they don't have one, they would likely be happier.

 

So 70% of the people in the US and every free society in the world is wrong and the gop is right ? Conceited much ?

 

The ACA is still private insurance. It cost because you’re forcing for profits to insure people with preexisting conditions and not have caps. So let’s get real. universal medicare for all is not like Obamacare which is a stop gap measure to save the millions of middles class who lost their jobs during one of the rights many recessions. 90% of people who lost their jobs and health insurance were middle class...it was an emergency. The ACA is not intended to continue as is....

 

Not once does any anti ACA mention Pre existing conditions and caps by private insurance in their diatribe. They talk in platitudes not real life.

If you never mention it, you definitely don’t know anything about health insurance.

 

Did I say the GOP is right? Where do you come up with this stuff? I won’t ever associate with the GOP again in part because of their stance on this issue. Please remove the partisan blinders. I’m advocating for non government controlled solutions. That upsets authoritarians of both persuasions, you included. If you want to pretend freedom is dependence on the state, then knock yourself out.

 

It is not private when coverages etc. are mandated and premiums are subsidized. That’s just silly.

I agree on profits. But people voluntarily insured that which they shouldn’t have for decades, leading to a bloated insurance industry that now has too much power. You all gave them the power.

So how is the ACA supposed to continue?

 

Dude, if you use the terms “pre-existing” and “insurance” in the same sentence you’ve disqualified yourself from discussing insurance. The two are mutually exclusive.

 

No car dealers ... has there been a decrease in the population in the area surrounding your town? Were the dealers you lost domestic--Ford, GM, etc? lost market share (domestic dealers), more reliable vehicles requiring less maintenance, lost rural population, the push for profits ... all leave room for local mechanics.

Mom-and-pop dealers are subsidized by manufacturers who faced with a highly competitive car market pulled the plug on less profitable rural area dealers.

I think the loss of car dealers is part of a larger problem of fewer people making a living from farming. About 40% of us lived on farms in 1900, now it's less than 2%. Small communities are losing people because there are few farmers to service with stores, schools, hospitals, roads, etc.

As someone who grew up in the country and lived across from a dairy farm as an adult, I feel the loss of community. I don't have to tell you about what it's like to know all of your neighbors--young, old, religious, not religious, liberal, conservative. If you've never experienced it, you don't know what you're missing. My Republican mother's best friend was a liberal Democratic artist married to an artist who lived a across the street. They used to walk into each other's house with a quick knock on an unlocked door.

We can't save every rural community, but we can do a lot more to stop big business from just writing them off.