Educated vs "Non-Educated"

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  1. dagosa

    dagosa Well-Known Member

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    You’re confused because we have one party that delves in lunacy and who don’t believe in science in any form, and another party that seeks to compromise with them.
     
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    It’s a big world, you need not put yourself through such stress.
     
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    That’s a reply from someone at a loss for words.
    It’s the “ well I have an answer but you wouldn’t understand,” Why, because you’re too smart for all the institutions responsible for health care in the world ?
     
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    No, I am confused because American politics have perverted the term. This perversion is the reason the term libertarian exists today.

    Liberal actually means socially liberal, fiscally conservative.


    Meh.
     
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    Aha. You fell for the idea that “libertarians” are a separate entity. They aren’t. They are republicans that like sushi and drive. Volvo’s. They think and vote republican but are too embarrassed to be called one.
     
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    If you look at history, only liberals have consistently tried to pay their bills and reduce the deficit. Republicans think being fiscally conservative means spending money like a drunken sailor and then, not going to work in Monday so you can pay for your partying. They are debt mongers and luv recessions.....which is where the wealthy buy property off the middle class when they lose their job.
     
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    I know full well that not everyone wants or is able to get a 4 year academic degree such as our colleges and universities offer. And, I'm definitely behind moe support for vocational training that prepares high school kids for employment by employers who have positions they believe can be filled by those without 4 year degrees.

    Also, continuing education is important in all fields. Our economy is changing fast enough that it's a good idea to become prepared for new employment.

    Your 2 has two main problems. One is that parents aren't necessarily able to do what you want them to do. The other is that a large segment of our population doesn't even make enough money to pay taxes! So, suggesting they take on more debt is a flat out fail.

    I have great respect for your dedicatin to being a good parent - obviously, we need that. And, it isn't always easy.

    As a nation, we face competition both here and abroad in economic sectors that require college degrees. That also creates employment for others, but it can't happen without those with the additional education. For these new economic sectors, brains is the raw material - like iron was once the critical raw material. We can't afford to continue wasting our brains by ignoring those brains born to parents who can't or don't help.

    We have less than 5% of the brains! China has nearly 20%. The EU has nearly 10%. India has nearly 18%.

    We just can't keep wasting our brains - regardless of how or why they are getting left behind.

    In Germany, university is FREE outside of some administrative costs!
     
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    Ummm, yes. As a matter of fact. But reinsurance has nothing to do with past events. It also is a guarantee against future loss. Hmmmm.
     
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    Please go look up the definition of insurance. You can call the law of the land whatever you want, but words mean things. It isn’t insurance.
     
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    No, Libertarianism has nothing to do with the GOP and claiming so is a huge insult to the ideology's intellectual canon and prominent figures of today.

    Us Libertarians are not Republicans.
     
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    Still not liberal. Read Locke and Mises and rethink your position.
     
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    Check out voluntary cost sharing. They have preexisting conditions figured out where it’s fair for everyone. What’s your obsession with insurance and calling things insurance that aren’t? I thought progressives were supposed to think outside the box?
     
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    I’ve told the story here before. In short it’s a story of a man who never had health insurance surviving a serious accident, nine day hospitalization, 20 month recuperation, and coming out on the other side better off. I’m at no loss for words or facts. That would be you when asked to back up your assertions. Remember how all this started? You making assertions not based on facts and leaving out pertinent information.
     
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    Rand Paul?
     
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    His father is certainly Libertarian and did wonders for the movement. Running as a Republican was purely strategic and apolitical. His only focus was non-interventionism and ending the FED; matters that no one in the GOP supports.

    Despite having the entire party against him, he had a huge influence on tons of young Americans.

    Ron Paul is the most consistent and honest American politician in history. His actions and votings were always in line with his tongue.

    A great man.

    Libertarianism in its purest form is an idea centred around the idea that the initiation of force is wrong. That really is all there is to it.
     
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    The best comment I have heard was I was college educated, and it took me 5 years to get over it.
     
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    What on earth are you talking about?

    MIDDLE CLASS people have their own back-up assets. That's what makes them middle class. If you have nothing in the bank and are mortgaged to the eyeballs, it doesn't matter how big your house is or how many cars are in the drive, you are not middle class. You could be living in a trailer in Hicksville, and be middle class. It's a financial position, not a square footage. It means you can survive without wages/salary income, indefinitely.
     
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    Sure, take the support job while foreign nations take the higher paying degreed jobs. Our Graduate schools are filled with foreign nationals.....
     
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    Baloney....
    The middle class is living pay check to pay check. They have no discretionary assets.....
    https://www.investopedia.com/articl...igh-earners-still-live-paychecktopaycheck.asp
     
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    Sure, due to socialism.....
     
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    You missed the point, somewhat.

    We all know that many parents will choose the easy way (ie, not supporting education), but as long as we remain democratic societies, we have no choice but to accept that.

    If we are 'wasting our brains', it's because we are choosing to do so. Again, how can you force a stop to that, in a democracy?
     
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    Laughable.....you still have no answer. 30,000 people per year died before the ACA and mandatory insurance. . The biggest cause of bankrupt, medical costs. Voluntary cost sharing is a joke...it isn’t working, never has.
     
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    Sure..........read.
     
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    If the right knew finances, they wouldn’t expect for profit health care to be cheaper.
    laughable. I get it, universal HC is cheaper in every other country, but for some reason, it’s more expensive here. Delusional.
     
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