How Japan Has Almost Eradicated Gun Crime

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  1. Texas Republican

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    Japan doesn’t have a 2,000 mile border with a violent, third-world country.
     
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    How do all those people in Japan commit suicide if they have no guns.
     
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    Gun nuts are the two little things between the legs of the gun.
     
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    Well...I guess copying other countries that are doing things better is out of the question too. That's too un-American.:spin:
     
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    I generally agree with you, but I think it's also fair to say that lawful gun owners aren't a problem until they are. In other words, sometimes good people go bad. FWIW, I conceal-carry.
     
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    More like a silly smear the left likes to use. The guy that used it, appears afraid to answer.
     
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    A tiny fraction of death caused by guns, unlawfully.
     
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    I think the prevalence of guns in American society is a double-edged sword. On the downside, sometimes good people go bad and shoot others. Or sometimes their gun gets stolen and is used against another. On the plus side, I believe that the belief that others are likely or possibly carrying a gun serves as a powerful deterrent to crime. I live in Florida and I'm confident that those inclined to engage in crime against another are cognizant of the very real possibility that those that they want to prey upon may be armed.

    But all of that is beside the point. The 2nd amendment wasn't about stopping crime, it was about allowing the populace to be armed in order to overthrow a tyrannical government.

    As for Japan, their history, culture and circumstances are completely different from ours. For that matter, the history, culture and circumstances of various segments of America are often completely different from other segments. I'm cool with looking at what they do and seeing if we can benefit from it too, but it's naïve to believe that we can expect the same results. Apples and oranges.
     
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    I just finished reading a book called "Assad or we burn the country". It's about the infamous Assad family of Syria, its history and the ongoing civil war. The Syrian regime has literally TORTURED TO DEATH thousands of its own people. Perhaps tens of thousands. I believe the death toll is somewhere around a half-million, many of them just ordinary Syrians and NOT Jihadis. Regular Syrians have been at the mercy of an unmerciful, totalitarian government that routinely and, as a matter of routine procedure, tortures and butchers them.

    Throughout the world and throughout history, there have been seemingly countless goons like Assad. One is kidding themselves if they think it could never happen in America.

    If and when the world is rid of brutal tyrants as well as violent criminals, I'll be happy to part ways with my guns.
     
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    They have a different ethnicity, different culture. different history, and different geography. Your false equivalence is a classic logical fallacy.

    If you think Japan is so much better than America take note of their declining economy, aging population, radiation and declining birthrate. Also, note that they are totally dependent on the US (a country you seem to bash) for defense.
     
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    Can't do any better than an ad hominem insult?
     
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    Japanese Americans commit gun crimes at a rate similar to that of Japanese nationals. Yet guns are readily available to the former. I wonder if it has more to do with culture and upbringing than it has to do with access to a firearm.
     
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    Yes, it's cultural. Japanese children are taught to respect others and have feelings such as shame. You show me a violent community in America and I'll show you a community devoid of respect and shame.
     
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    Yeah, people who want freedom suck. They should be good sheep, bleating happily in their pens, knowing that the shepherds and sheepdogs will look out for them. All those sheep have to do is be wiling to be sheared every so often, be slaughtered whenever the shepherds find it convenient, and never, ever question the authority of the shepherd.
     
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    That must have taken quite some magic. Ask any progressive, guns are possessed by demons that push their owners to lay waste in an orgy of murder. The only protection against such demons is a government badge and/or paycheck.
     
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    Yup. A significant portion of Americans, usually Democrats, are conditioned to brag about things that used to be embarrassing. No job, spending mom and dad's money, doing drugs....all things to post on instagram and snapchat.
     
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    Yeah...like I said...it's un-American. It's un-American to be able to make healthy, progressive changes. It's un-American to think differently than our piggy ancestors from Europe who came looking for gold & slaughtered the natives. It's better to keep looking down on other nations as inferior, and cherry-pick their problems as proof that we're superior.

    Maybe because they're not invading every nation in the world and plundering their resources.
     
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    This is a great idea!!....We should apply it to drugs too! Lets just get rid of them!
     
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    This is an old article by NPR from 2013, but I presume the statistics are still relevant. Anyway, Russia had (or has) far more homicides than the U.S. in spite of having FAR fewer guns and a smaller population. I think it's fair to say that their culture is far more criminal and violent than our (U.S.) own.

    There are fewer than 13 million firearms in circulation in Russia, compared with an estimated 300 million in the United States. That works out to about 9 guns per 100 people in Russia and closed to 100 guns per 100 people in America.

    The most recent homicide statistics for Russia show that there were 21,603 killings in 2009. According to the FBI, the United States had 13,636 homicides in 2009 with a population that is more than twice as large. More than 80 percent of those killings were gun-related.

    https://www.npr.org/sections/parall...u-s-has-more-guns-but-russia-has-more-murders
     
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    Japan's violent crime rate in general is lower than ours. Much, much lower.

    https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Japan/United-States/Crime

    Their stabbing rates are just as much lower as their gun violence rates, yet they do not restrict knives.

    Their beating rates are just as much lower as their gun violence rates, yet they do not restrict hands or feet.

    Their rape rates are just as much lower as their gun violence rates, yet they do not restrict penises.

    What makes you think their lower gun violence rates must be a result of their gun restrictions? Wouldn't it make more sense that their gun violence is lower because their overall tendency to commit violence is much lower?
     
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    How Japan Has Almost Eradicated Gun Crime

    Having spent some time in Japan I can tell you that Japan has very little crime compared to other countries. It is safe for anyone to walk the streets of any Japanese city at any time of day. It is due to their culture. It is how they raise and educate children. It is ingrained in their beliefs. There are some negatives to Japanese culture but crime is not one of them.
     
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    Speaking as a life-long gun owner, gun nuts are those who have taken a hobby and turned it into a fetish.
     
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    If that's true... then it's quite insane to arm everyone in this country...people with a much higher tendency to commit violence.
    You're asking for trouble...not trying to prevent it at all.
     

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