Is climate change risk an invention of self interested and stupid?

Logic error (Argument of the Stone Fallacy). Failure to form a counterargument beyond appealing to absurdity.

 

Mockery is not an argument. It IS, however, the most sincere form of flattery.

 

In addition to mockery, this is also yet another logic error, known as the fallacy fallacy.

A fallacy fallacy (in this case, anyway) is the false use of a fallacy. In other words, it is an error of logic about an error of logic.

 

you just make that crap up.

The Fallacy Fallacy: Why Fallacious Arguments Can Have Right Conclusions
The fallacy fallacy is a logical fallacy that occurs when someone assumes that if an argument contains a logical fallacy, then its conclusion must necessarily be wrong.

Like I said, everything you know is wrong.

 

No, I don't. I'm rather educated on logic and how it works. I'm also good at forming my own arguments. You, on the other hand, are just opening up a Google page and stealing arguments from the first webpage that you see, not even understanding the argumentation being made by that webpage.

This "holy link" of yours is sort-of correct, but is incomplete. This "holy link" is honing in on a specific form of a fallacy fallacy, not what a fallacy fallacy itself is. This "holy link" is describing an error of logic about an error of logic, but is making reference to a specific form of that error instead of noting that it is simply an error of logic about an error of logic.

Like I said, you steal arguments from others (not understanding them) instead of forming your own arguments and understanding the logic behind them.

 

Hogwash!

 

Argument of the Stone Fallacy. You have dismissed my argumentation as "absurd" without providing any counter-argumentation.

 

HOGWASH!

 

Well them stations in 1880 do cover almost 1/10,000,000th of a percent of the globe, so that must be super-duper accurate conclusive proof that worthless non-productive bureaucrats need to take more of the productive people's hard earned money to enrich themselves.

Or maybe not! Maybe we should just murder all of the shamelessly hypocritical CO2 spewing lying climate alarmist bastards and eat them.

You know, to save the Earth.

 

Sounds good to me!

 

Because asking a goldman sacs exec is totally different from from asking an oil tycoon because he isnt a liberal therefore isnt biased? Whut?

 

Science, as a body of knowledge, is comprised of ideas that can be, but have not yet been, disproved.

Religion, as a body of knowledge, is comprised of ideas that cannot be disproved.

As the ever moving goal posts of climate prediction demonstrate, anthropogenic-catastrophic-global climate change is not disprovable and is therefore a religious belief.

 

A ridiculous superstition very typical of a doomsday cult.

 

If anyone claims that something is "scientific", ask them how it can be disproved. If it can't be disproved, it's not "scientific".

 

Since AGW theory can be disproved with many types of hard evidence, that puts it in the category of science.

Denialism, however can't be disproved, thus demonstrating its pseudoscience basis. I've asked deniers here many times what kind of hard data would disprove their theory, and none would ever give an answer. That's because denialism is purely faith-based, like a religion, and religions can't be disproved.

But then, maybe you can be the first. State your theory of what drives the earth's climate, and then state what hard data would disprove that theory. If you're not running purely on faith, that shouldn't be a problem.

 

If such a majority agrees with you, why don't you just do what you say needs to be done yourselves voluntarily?
Are you really willing to let the world burn because you couldn't compel a few denier holdouts?
OR
Are there far few of you, and far more of us, than you have been willing to admit?

When can I swoop in and buy beachfront property at a discount as woke people sell off ahead of rising sea levels?
When will the evacuation of Martha's Vineyard begin?

No one really believes you, especially not your leaders.
The ONLY thing all eco-doomsayers do agree on is that the solutions must be compulsory.

You're darn right your ideas can be disproved, and they will be because we are not going to do any of the things that you say must be done. None of them. We're going full steam ahead. China and India are going to add more carbon to our atmosphere in the next decade than mankind has contributed since 1850. We're calling your bluff. We're conducting the experiment. We will find out.

When was that eco-doomsday supposed to happen ?

 

That's like saying "If you say taxes are necessary, why don't you pay all taxes yourself?". It's just dumb. You don't get to freeload just because you cry really loud.

Oh, it also assume, incorrectly, that we're not doing what needs to be done, so it faceplants in two different ways.

Alas, such dumb talking points are all you have, so you'll keep repeating them, even knowing how dumb they are.

Why on earth do you think property values should plunge right now? Just how clueless about real estate and the science are you?

Oh, that's right. You need deflections. You were asked what hard evidence could possibly falsify your sacred dogma. You couldn't name any, which confirms that your beliefs are entirely religious in nature.

Given that you are just pushing a religion, why should anyone care what you say?

 

You can disprove climate change if you can show CO2 isnt a greenhouse gas, or that humans have not increased the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere.

so now you agree, climate changer is science since I pointed out how you can disprove it.

 

There's nothing to worry about. Sea levels and temperatures aren't rising at a rate that we should worry about. Nothing is happening fast. There's not a problem. None of the stuff that was in Al Gore's "Inconvenient Truth" is happening. Martha's Vineyard is not being evacuated. Beachfront property is not being flooded. It's ok.

 

Depends how you define "fast". Sea levels and temperatures are rising at unprecedented rates, and will be serious problems within a span of decades.

You mean not a problem for _you_ personally, so you define as not a problem period.

Deniers have problems understanding the "there are other people in the world besides myself" thing.

 

This is news to me. Where is this happening? Where is beachfront property doing down in value because of sea level rise? I have been looking forward to sweeping in and buying beachfront property for pennies on the dollar as woke people sell off ahead of sea level rise; but for the life of me, I've been unable to find that happening anywhere. You are obviously much better informed than I am, so please do tell me; where exactly is this happening?

 

https://www.insurancejournal.com/news/national/2018/05/04/488283.htm
Recent research confirms that the climate threat is already showing up in prices. Economists Asaf Bernstein, Matthew Gustafson and Ryan Lewis have a recent paper showing that houses exposed to sea-level rise of between 0 and 6 feet have been selling at a 7 percent discount relative to houses a similar distance from the beach that aren’t exposed. The time period they look at is 2007-2016 — before the damage from Harvey. They also confirm that the discount is higher in locations where people report more worry about climate change.

Another recent study, by environmental researchers Jesse Keenan Thomas Hill and Anurag Gumber, shows something similar. Focusing on Miami-Dade County, they show that higher-elevation locations have risen in price faster than similar locations at low elevations.

 

Where? Where is beachfront property going down in value because of sea level rise ?
I want to swoop in and pay pennies on the dollar for beachfront property as woke people selloff ahead of sea level rise,
but I cannot, for the life of me, find anywhere that's happening.

 

http://leeds-faculty.colorado.edu/AsafBernstein/DisasterOnTheHorizon_PriceOfSLR_BGL.pdf

 

No, I mean now, not "On the Horizon". Your link is in reference to predictions and their possible implications. I've read tons of stuff like that. What I want to know is when and where it starts actually happening. I want to know when woke people start selling off for pennies on the dollar of Martha's Vineyard or Miami Beach.