Educated vs "Non-Educated"

You are the one confused on socialism. And you are unable to respond to my post. Instead you repeat yourself.

And the government is actually not involved in my sewage in any way. Sorry.

 

Ooos

 

I would guess the 19% illiterate are not making A grades!

Please demonstrate where my assertions are factually incorrect. Are you arguing with the US Bureau of Labor Statistics? You are welcome to prove them wrong.

 

Quite the opposite. Or rather those children who grow up in religious households yet see through the silliness of it all, tend to do better academically than those who cling to their religion.

Your gaslighting won’t work on me as I grew up attending classes for the kids who read too fast. Even in college, I took as many honors classes as I could, just for the challenge. I just don’t recall many in the smart kid classes being all that religious. With more having rejected religion, as I have, than in the general population.

 

Religion consists of archetypical mythology that serve as a civilisational glue. Scientism can be just as dangerous as religion and it is simply ignorant and naive to disregard religion as nonsense since it obviously has filled a very important function in human life in all cultures for thousands and thousands of years.

Religion does not make you stupid.

Cute anecdote, m8.

 

The chart was of those who got mostly A’s, not of the illiterate. Plus the chart may be a bit misleading. It used to be said that 95% of people believed, yet made up only about 50% of those who are educated. Meaning that the non believers are several times more likely to succeed academically.

 

You brought up the illiterate. My chart shows the simple fact religious involvement leads to better grades. It’s a fact. Please stay on topic.

 

Human beings are very simple-minded and the challenge we face is that the world we live in is far too complex for us to conceptualise. This is why we tend to apply a dualistic model in our interpretation of reality:

i . God created Eve from Adam's rib
ii. Evolution turned the single-cell organism to a two-cell organism.

As we can see, there is little difference in the two ways of interpreting reality.

 

Religion blocks one from setting reality as it really is. If gods and faeries were real, that would be one thing. But they are not. Religious tales blinds people to the world around them.

All the time, growing up, people kept telling me all these horrible things that would happen to me if I didn’t follow the word of god. I spend my time mocking the idea of a god and all the horrible predictions have not come true.

There is a reason that all the great innovators have been freethinkers.

 

Many of the most prominent intellectuals have actually been religious.

I am not against religion because I understand sociology, anthropology and biology. I am not a religious person, but I do believe in good and evil and I am a structural-functionalist which means I understand the importance of religion. Athetist society is yet to find a proper replacement for religion because as it stands today it has not been able to do so. Modern society deteriorated into hedonism when we decided to throw religion out the window and as an educated person I am sure you have heard about the baby and the bath-water.

 

The numbers on your chart don’t add up. Plus it is short on information. If, for instance, in the sample, the general student population 10% are non religious, yet 16% get mostly A’s, they are punching above their weight.

 

Interesting perspective I don’t see very often.

 

People like Andrew Carnegie, Thomas Edison, Henry Ford, Albert Einstein, Stephen Hawkins, Steve Jobs, and Bill Gates were non religious.

 

And many more were too. Just as many more were religious.

It is also important to remember that it was actually the Church that built the first universities.

My point is that it is ignorant to be antagonistic of religion and wave it off as complete and utter nonsense. I was firmly anti-religion when I was a teenager and thought my high school intellectualism of "lolz man in the sky" was the epitome of big brains.

The Christian doctrine with virtues and sins incentivises behaviour that fosters a functional society and disincentivises behaviours that make a society fall apart. An ontology where everyone is your brother and sister and God is everyone's shared father fosters community.

Religion is not bad. If it was bad, it would not be something universally found across cultures and time.

 

Sure, you’re not religious. Sure you aren’t. The world is just too complex for us mere mortals to understand. It takes a big daddy in the sky to figure out everything for us. That is the load of silliness that liberalism threw out.

See that is why freethinkers are always the innovators. Without the god delusions one can see that the world is understandable. That the forces of nature can be understood and harnessed for the benefit of mankind.

 

John Locke was Christian.

I am not religious at all. I guess I could pass as "Culturally Christian", but really I am just an agnostic.

Just because you believe in God, it does not mean that you are not a freethinker and thinking the opposite is just fundamentalist insanity.

 

Those with strong minds tend to see through religion. That there is no need to to cling to ancient myths. Mankind, especially in Northern Europe and growing in America is evolving to a post religious world. Religious minded persons are going to increasingly find their mindset out of time, and the frustration that is sure to cause. Kind of the way slavers and racists have been being pushed to the low end of the evolutionary scale.

 

Have you not read John Locke’s book on Human Understanding?

 

You aren’t so good at math as you believe yourself to be.

Now you are trying to make the argument that the percentage of students who eat ice cream that get A’s and the percentage of students who don’t eat ice cream that get A’s must equal 100%. Funny stuff.

The graph makes no claim about what percentage of students are non religious. This thread cracks me up.

 

You are claiming the graph says something that it does not. No wonder you are confused.

 

Nope. You are wrong. It says what it says. Nothing more. Those who actively practice religion do better academically. Your government says it’s true. I don’t know what your TV has to say on the subject...

If you would like to produce a study with different results I’d be happy to analyze it with you.

 

Education allows us to have perspective. For example, knowing what past presidents have done allows us to understand what Trump is alleged to have done is very, very minor.

Without that knowledge, and by listening to the msm, you’d be under the impression Trump was just an orange Al Capone.

 

22 year old study in Canada ? How is that even relevant ?

 

A 22 year old study in Canada. Wow, you could not fake something better ? Not even a Jerry Falwell made these claims.

 

Yours doesn’t even say anything about religion . You’ve just dismissed the credibility factor.