Dad Confronts Warren On Student Loan Forgiveness: ‘Can I Have My Money Back?’

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  1. The Mello Guy

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    So I assume you think businesses who claim bankruptcy are scum also?
     
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    It IS a Moot Point.

    Regardless of what the Latest "Go there and Post This" Marching Orders are....

    And, Regardless of anyone's RW-Biased OPINION about how "low" someone will "sink"...

    Compared to Trump's Debasement of the Presidency--They are still on High Ground.
     
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    I wonder if people made the same lame arguments when Medicare was created.
     
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    Bankruptcy comes with consequences. What are the consequences of student loan forgiveness for the borrowers?
     
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    there's some basic things here

    First: she's pandering to get votes. Promise free stuff and grab the votes of the recipients
    Next: Warren now tries to cite social security as an example but fails to mention that people who receive SS, both they and their employers paid into SS
    Third, if we are going to pay for these loans, do we get to choose what schools we will allow? Why should we forgive debt to Harvard?
    Fourth: Can we the taxpayers determine how much professors and administrators get paid, or how much books should cost? If we are being forced to pay then we should be able to dictate salaries
     
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    Heavens no. Then she'd be affected just like the rest of us plebs.
     
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    What's lame about it you lame comparison notwithstanding.
     
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    It’s literally an argument that can be made about any social program or spending.
     
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    Forgiving student loans is just ignorant. It is an attempt to purchase votes plain and simple. The ease by which students were able to get loans resulted in a huge increase in tuitions and salaries for school administrators, they were feeding at the trough.
    When those kids and parents took out those loans they knew they were supposed to pay them back, and they should. Perhaps that stupid squaw should reconsider, and perhaps forgive interest on the loans (just for the student not the banking institution they still deserve to make interest) but still make people responsible for paying back the money.
    But one thing I have seen my whole life, one party never discusses personal responsibility, one party is always looking for someone to blame and someone else to pay for their fun in the sun.
     
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    Medicare is expected to run out of money by 2026 last I heard, another lame socialist "success" story if you want to call it that. But that's not enough, let's add college education to the list of freebies to put joe taxpayer on the hook for. :rolleyes:
     
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    Bullshit. I dont have a degree and I'll make more than her... I guarentee it, barring her being some sort of rare disease specialist of nuclear engineer.

    I'm four classes shy of completing my degree but I make over six figures now so what's the point?

    No, I'm not a plumber or metal worker. I work in operations and logistics.

    Degrees get your interviews, skills get you jobs. I've been promoted twice and federally appointed once in the last few years, and not a single person has ever asked me what I learned in college.

    College is absolutely helpful for people seeking professional degrees, but experience outweighs education in the real world.

    The biggest secret to being successful? Dont be a piece of ****.
     
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    amen
     
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    Good. Pay your own. I pay mine
     
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    Yes, sometimes the enemy must be removed for a recovery to occur.
    There is no way to reform our healthcare system with $500 Billion going to the insurance companies.
     
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    You should give this a view...
     
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    Hard pass.
     
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    Your knowledge base is grossly deficient. You do not realize that the official story on which your enthusiasm for our war of terror was inaccurate in many ways.
     
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    Let's just be clear here.

    You believe in gutting the Constitution to serve your agenda.

    Correct?
     
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    What portion do you believe I am wanting to “gut”?
     
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    No that's your fault alone. When people take student loans they are obligated to pay them back. The Government can't pick and choose whose loans to pay back, it's either all or none. Equal protection under the law.
     
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    Don't get slick.
     
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    Gee, it's amazing when individual lower income, our Republicans claim we must pay off ALL loans!

    But if it is our leading companies, our captains of industry, our politicians and people incomes over 5 or 10% of income, why bankruptcy, not paying loans, not paying back value that these same people are going to "reorganize" the money that these people are going to be used for new ventures or strategies whole screwing the workers who actually worked on the jobs, were promised payment, retirement, while those same leaders are going to put 30%, 40% into their OWN bank accounts (probably in offshore accounts) and do it all again and again!

    Screw it! It's time the money men and leaders have sold off American workers, and the billionaires who have milked their personal wealth and income to a level that is getting close to actually owning all of it! At least the future of children can be get a chance at getting a chance!

    In my youth, I could get my education and it was almost trivial to pay my student loans and costs could be paid off in a few years. Now, it's a 20 or 30 year stretch if someone didn't have a parent paying that 6 figure school, which all too often plenty of time of drunken parties and making other people miserable.
     
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    Not exactly sure what you mean, but are you saying that a college education is "all too often plenty of time of drunken parties and making other people miserable"? And yet you want the taxpayer to be on the hook for that?

    And I must ask, are you college educated? In the United States?
     
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    From Kat Timpf

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2020...-paid-for-college-wouldnt-be-fair-enough/?amp

    In fact, this man’s own suggestion for how to make things fair would still leave him (in his words) getting “screwed.”

    When he references the sacrifices that he and his family had to make to pay for his daughter’s college, what he’s implicitly saying is that his choice to be financially responsible has cost him things that money cannot replace.

    I can relate.

    My plan was to move to Los Angeles for a summer internship at Fox News before heading to New York City to attend Columbia in the fall. Then, I realized I’d never be able to repay the $80,000 loan I’d have to take out to attend my dream school.

    I was already enrolled, but I withdrew.
     
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    The sacrifices she explains later in the piece are what many of us went through.

    The freebie crowd will never understand this.
     
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