Right to repair.

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  1. StillBlue

    StillBlue Well-Known Member

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    Php mostly connecting network users to mariaDBs. So I really only need an editor, I use Atom
     
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    Steady Pie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I enjoy repairing stuff myself. Just did a top end rebuild on my Banshee.

    If Yamaha wanted to cover it in a bunch of impregnable plastic **** I wouldn't have bought one. Neither do I own any Apple products anymore. My car is a Toyota Landcruiser.

    Regulation wouldn't be the end of the world, but I'm content with what I have now. If my Note 8 breaks I'm getting a Nokia brick again.
     
  3. Starjet

    Starjet Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That’s because it’s not fraud. Duh.
     
  4. mdrobster

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    I actually like eclipse and Java, they have their uses. Vs now comes with .net core where you can develop on Ms, yet target all platforms or just Linux or apple.

    There now is a vs studio for Linux never used it.
     
  5. StillBlue

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    Don't bother, it's just an editor.
     
  6. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    I would argue that it is fraud by trick or device.
     
  7. Starjet

    Starjet Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Take it to court, prove your case, you win. Can’t prove fraud, you lose. That’s life. Get on with it.
     
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  8. Starjet

    Starjet Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Unless it’s fraud, there’s nothing for the market to correct. The purpose of the market is free trade, not social justice.
     
  9. NMNeil

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    Same here. I have one on my router for ad and Microsoft blocking and one set up with Kodi for home entertainment.
    It still has a problem trying to block Youtube ads because they are so heavily embedded. Block many of the rollout videos and the following content wouldn't play.
    But smarter minds than mine are working to overcome that. 8)
     
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    Why stupid?
    Wouldn't it put your mind at ease if the person working on the brakes of your car had some idea what they were doing?
    As for the mechanics, when they went for a job the first thing a prospective employer would have to ask is "Do you have your license" rather than "How cheap will you work"
    I worked long and hard to get my G2 emissions inspector license in Nevada, which allowed me to repair emission failures. I recouped my investment many many times over.
     
  11. Starjet

    Starjet Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Better certificates by private enterprises than "licenses" (permission to work) from government bureaucrats. Besides, if you don't know what you're doing, you won't be working very long.
     
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  12. Polydectes

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    That's not an argument.
     
  13. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    If the market doesn't control cost of repairs then there is not a free market.

    Defending this is anti-capitalist.
     
  14. Starjet

    Starjet Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The fact that you don't like the price doesn't mean the market isn't controlling the price. Of course, it is. What else would? The government's gun setting the price according to your dictates?
     
  15. Starjet

    Starjet Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You're right, it's not. It's the argument resolved.
     
  16. Polydectes

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    If you don't like the price of repair you don't have any options that's anti capitalism.
    WTF are you talking about government setting price has nothing at all to do with this thread. Pay attention please.
     
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    No it's an appeal to legalism. It isn't logical.
     
  18. Polydectes

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    licensure doesn't insure competence, it insures liability.
    I've worked as a mechanic for just under 20 years and nobody has ever asked first it second how cheap will I work. First it's always skills. They have asked for ASE certifications occasionally. That is how you will gauge competence. Industry has better government to the punch in certifying and determining qualification.

    However shops that have no ASE certifications do quite well because they are cheap.
    No licensure can replace ASE certifications. They simply never will have the scrutiny.
     
  19. Starjet

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    And what should one appeal to, divine intervention?
     
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  20. Polydectes

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    Appeal to whatever you wish it's just not a logical argument.

    If you want to have a logical position try not appealing to anything.
     
  21. Starjet

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    Nope, it means the competition can’t beat that price.
    As to the government setting the price, it doesn’t? Ever hear of minimum mark-up laws? Minimum wage? Maximum interest? Anti-price gouging?

    Let’s at least be honest.
     
  22. Starjet

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    You want to charge fraud, prove it in court and quit your whining. Or better yet, enter the market with a better product at a lower price.
     
  23. Starjet

    Starjet Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Do you want a free market or slave market? Oh, neither, you want a mixed market. Well, a mixed product is a free market on its way to slave market.
     
  24. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    Okay, I don't think you understand the topic. There is no competition there cannot be because the repair requires property keys that nobody else has.
    This discussion has absolutely NOTHING to do with government setting price.
    You have to understand the discussion to be able to gauge honestly competently.
     
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    If there is no competition there is no free market. Why are you against competition?
    You don't seem to want a free market or a market at all.
     

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