I'm tired of Trump supporters being labeled "cultists"

Deliberate self-blinding does that.

 

Don't let it get to you, that's how they win! Just think of all of the horrible things many of us (I said many because I don't speak for you or other people) think about "many" liberals. Its just you hear it more from them because they own the media/entertainment/fake news industry.

 

Reality does that.

 

Reality disagrees with you on this one, sister. I'd invite you to check reality out some time.

 

Is it really your contention that Nancy Pelosi does not twist arms to get the votes she wants? Are you familiar with the role of a party Whip?

 

I have no idea what the term "progressive democrats" means as regards my post. Too many labels.

 

The inference that I drew from your post was that you were implying that Republicans browbeat their members into submission and that Democrats do not. Which is precisely why I asked you for clarification. If you are acknowledging that browbeating their members into towing the party line is a common technique from both sides, then we are in agreement. Although if that was your original intent, your wording was a strange way to convey that mindset.

 

I'm responding to your OP. So where am I wrong?

 

I wouldn't mind being referred to as a heretic in regards to progressivism. That would be suitably accurate.

 

Hey, don't forget "The real crime was he got caught"!

 

Projection from the right... see what Republican did to McCain... how sad

 

They think calling us names gives them power over us. It doesn't.

That's why I own two "Cult 45" tshirts and can't wait for my "Impeached" shirts.

 

The DoJ has, for as long as I can remember always held that a sitting President cannot be indicted. Even during the Clinton administration Clinton was not indicted while in office.

And just because Trump & Co says that they can't be investigated doesn't mean that they can't be....obviously considering he's been under investigation from day 1.

And while he says him and those around him are "immune" from having to testify that also does not mean he is right. All that Congress had to do was go to the courts to enforce their subpoena's and those around him more than likely would have been forced to testify no matter what Trump said. But they didn't. They were too blinded by their hatred of Trump.

Know what's funny? Through out Muellers investigation Trump co-operated with Muellers team. Gave him all the documents that he wanted, and ordered his people to co-operate with Mueller. Never ONCE exerted Executive Privilege. Trump never even argued against releasing the Mueller report with as little redaction as what his AG thought was possible. He only started arguing all these things when the Dems in the HoR got into power and started abusing their power.

 

there are many Trump cultists out there, Dayton3, I do not think your one of them, I have seen critical posts from you in the past of Trump when he does something bad, when people talk about the cult of Trump, they are not talking about you

 

Thank you but that won't change my dislike of the term.

 

I never approved of what Trump said about McCain's military service. It made me cringe. But I did not like McCain the politician.

I'm an Independent (have been for a long, long time) that leans right. Objectively, I think the Republicans are more tolerant of disagreement and dissent within their party than Democrats are. I think what really gets me about the Democrats is how hateful and vindictive they become if one of their members doesn't follow the party line. A good example of that is how Tulsi Gabbard has been treated. It has been disgraceful. But ... she did resign her position in disgust in the DNC. She did make speeches against our intervention in Syria while Hillary was running for president. She did endorse Bernie, but not Hillary. And she voted "Present" on impeachment instead of "Yes". All of these positions were based upon principle, principle that she has articulated.

For this, she gets called a "Russian asset." A sitting member of Congress, a war veteran, and currently a Major in the Army National Guard of Hawaii ... and she gets called a "Russian asset" by people in her own party. And of course, the Democratic Party controlled CNN (or was it MSNBC?) brings on panelists that parrot the same lies.

And this is just one example.

There are things about Republicans I don't like. And so I remain an Independent.

But the Democrats are scary.

 

Yes I think rational people would not support many of his politics, because they lead to nowhere land, or a failure.
Everything he does is based on confrontation, that alone is not rational.

 

The inane labeling tactic is ironically left over from the Cold War and radical identity politics of communist fellow travelers, sympathizers and useful idiots. It originates mostly with public unions, who have learned that Leninist/Maoist "oppressed/oppressor" identity politics work on the dregs of non taxpayers that Democrats must control and keep dependent and ignorant to win. "Racisss!" and "Sexisss!" and "Religious Right" worked for awhile, then when they began to wear thin, we get a whole new bevy of dishonest identity labels. Now they have become bizarre, "cultists" "deplorables," "trumpettes," etc.

I saw plenty of derogation of Obama on this forum, but must have missed Obama supporters being called "cultists" or "Obamatards" or whatever. Yet the LW spews these dishonest, inaccurate labels here DAILY, MANY times a day with aplomb. Childish and transparent, just like all their many placard slogan lie narratives on wealth, gender, race, etc.

The nonleft has learned to do it too, but it is a LW progressive holdover from "radical" days, so the nonleft will never get to the level of labeling zaniness that the Left has.
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There are accurate labels, who pays more taxes v who lives off taxes for example. That is a simple, quantifiable division that the LW goes to massive efforts to conceal and deflect with all its other labels.

What's most ironic is that one party "anoints" its chosen candidate via "smoke-filled room" while the other party, as Trump proved in 2016, does not. Ask Bernie or Tulsi supporters. So WHO -exactly- is a hivemind "cult" again?

 

I supported Reagan. I guess I was a Reagan cultist. Had I been alive in 1860, I would have been a Lincoln cultist.

I guess I’m easily fooled.

 

With each failure to derail the president, the dem strategy becomes more desperate and more irrational. From that position, rational people look crazy, and coherency in the groups of supporters is perceived as some kind of cult-like relationship. This is a perspective that affects vision- and in the mirror, they see nothing wrong with actions worse than those they accuse others of, because- they are justified by the emotional hole they have talked themselves into. I don't think there is much that can be done to change this;in time- it will run out of energy somewhat like a child throwing a tantrum. I suspect that it will last at least to some extent completely through the presidents second term. Then, when the successor to Trump follows in his footsteps- who know. Something like the lemming phenomena may happen. They may all go to Venezuela or something just to escape the horrors of a nation succeeding in spite of them.