Trump and religious liberty -- Militant atheists have met their match with our president

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  1. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Just want to let you know....I don't go door to door like some folks or Jehovah Witnesses or Mormons. I work like everyone else and do activities. It is in the course of these actions, if I am asked, or someone asserts their opinion, I let it be known what I believe. However, we Christians are not a door mat. At the appropriate time, I will try and turn the other cheek. But in the arena of Public debate, I will always be a defender of the faith. Just as you defend yours. You don't keep it to yourself.
     
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    Lol, doesn't it seem a little strange that this supposedly all-powerful god has to bow to a terrible horrible weak non-christian person to push it's agenda. Lol, doesn't that make you think that maybe (just maybe) we shouldn't be basing our decisions on silly 2,000 year old fairy tales? Just a thought
     
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    Right, but you can't really think that your messiah is this disgusting doormat right?
     
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    A wrong thought. Since the cross and the new covenant with the Christian church that has the faith of Jesus and keeps his commandments God doesn’t directly involve himself in the affairs of a single nation as He did before then. Jesus made this transition through doubting Thomas when he said you having seen believe believe, blessed are those who having not seen, believe. God will not show signs and wonders to get non believers to believe just as Jesus didn’t respond to leaders demanding that of him before they crucified Him. People will either believe based on a rational faith or they won’t. It’s that simple.
     
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    Our messiah is the Lord of Lords and King of kings!
     
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    But also bangs pornstars behind his wife's back?
     
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    And what is 'rational' faith?
     
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    Trump is our President, not s pastor and certainly not a god. God can use Trump to fulfill his will for us now and Trump could well have become willing to follow after God after considering the vast burdens and responsibility of the job he sought. That may be why he sought out Christian leaders to surround him since he began to run for the office.
     
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    But we have no indication that he chose to follow any notion of a christian god, other than the power he could get from appeasing the leaders of the believers. I mean, he never once turned the other cheek, or loved his neighbors by offering solace to refugees.
     
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    Lol, you don't even believe any of this stuff do you?
     
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    It took Luke Skywalker a while to believe also.
     
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    Yeah, but I'm pretty sure these russian troll farms don't ever come around.
     
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    They are here for the inanity of their species.
     
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    Well, at least until the inevitability of this pay for play world government failure.
     
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    Nothing better than debt fuel economic activity from capitalist that live on other people's money, it will run out it always does...That is why I bought 43 acres with timber, live water, game and the ability to raise crops...
     
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    Good luck with that. These guys won't have the slightest problem with nationalizing private land.
     
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    They'll need to kill me off first..
     
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    I agree 100% and if you have a faith, a belief in supernatural beings watching over us, in your moral doctrine I encourage you to worship your god and practice your religion. But keep it separate from the government of the entire population of the nation. Don't look to it for support or sanction.
     
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    Never been a problem in the past
     
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    I don't "practice" a religion. Faith is a part of my life. Don't look for support from me for your secularism. Keep your godlessness to your self.
     
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    Tell me if archaeologist made a huge discovery of scrolls telling how the Judeo-Christian religious story was made up by men from Genesis to Jesus would our rights go away?
     
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    Oh I have every intention of doing so. So you have faith in a supernatural god but not believe or follow any certain religion? Which god do you have faith in? You mentioned Lincoln is it the Judeo-Christian god in which you have faith?
     
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    The Alpha and Omega. The Creator of All things.
     
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    Are you going to attack Lincoln now?
     
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    Someone should file a complaint with the school board and note the several SCOTUS rulings.
     

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