Responsibly Facing Up to Climate Change

Stop using the internet, your communication device, and all the other hypocritical fossil apparatus's you use 365 days a year that make your little life livable

 

So you off grid? And is your country still profiting off the sale of dread Fossil sales

 

Yes and I have explained again and again that this hypothesis only works if only ONE government is involved or if it is only ONE institution

Are you under the impression that the AMERICAN government funds all climate research world wide? Do you honestly think that somehow that Japanese researchers are tweaking data because of funding from the American government? Do you honestly think that researchers in India Or Pakistan or Australia or New Zealand or Tonga or Zimbabwe are all influenced by some shady American government handouts

There were thousands of contributing authors involved in drafting the IPCC reports and they came from every country on the planet

Do you honestly thing that not ONE of those thousands of people have the honesty to say “this is wrong”?

 

it should read

Responsibly Facing Up to Climate Change Hoax

 

Why do you think it is a hoax?

 

they're burning the evidence as we speak

 

Who said just "American Government"?

 

So which government are you talking about?

 

Ok. Prove to me its human cause. Also provide a policy and strategy to stop it.

Screaming about the other side not believing you is not proof, nor an agenda. Its a deflection.

It doesn't matter if the other side disagrees... what's the plan other than partisan bickering?

 

There are so many

https://www.google.com/search?q=wha...qs=chrome..69i57j0l5&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Frex

https://www.sierraclub.org/trade/what-green-new-deal

It's rather overbroad and non-specific but given that I cannot for the life of me understand what is so bad about it.

 

Best reply for the month

 

I think it's more on the lines of hypocrisy in the case of Australia ¯\_(º¸º)_/¯

 

Now there is a beautiful town!

 

I haven't but I'm sure they think highly of Australia producing and selling huge amounts of coal and petroleum products to countries that pay little attention to global warming.. I mean if the gold standard to global warming contribution was a thing Australia would win every year

Gotta love folks that point that coal and petroleum soaked finger at the rest of the world while they profit and maintain what little their economy has to offer other then a fossil industry and hypocrisy ¯\_(º¸º)_/¯

 

Well take in to fact that Australia's whole economy rides on fossil production and exports.. Even if they did know, it be against their best interest to really acknowledge all the pertinent facts ¯\_(º¸º)_/¯

 

The amount of money the oil companies make is a pittance compared to the enormous profits the green industry makes from the gullible and the money the government will extort from the taxpayer in carbon credits. Carbon taxes will exceed income tax, think about that. When you have your car's emission inspected you will receive a bill. When you turn on anything electric you will be billed for that in excess of your electric bill. When you open the tap for a drink of water you will be billed for that. You will receive adjustments on every bill you pay because of it's relationship to co2. Anything you consume, in any way, will be subject to a carbon tax. Is it a scam? You bet, because every entity involved with any consumable good or service will pay, the government will be able to double, triple dip and more with no oversight because it will be another enormous bloated bureaucracy. Yes it's about money and was NEVER about the environment and all of your research and data is all bought and paid for. Climate change is a natural cycle that exists on uninhabited planets in our solar system probably throughout the universe. We cannot effect the tides nor the rotation of the earth or gravity or any other of the thousands of those natural things that occur here on this planet. What makes you think we can effect the climate when compared to all the other dynamics involved, anything man made is small potatoes.

 

In other words, the science is curated and censored by governments.

The IPCC is not a true representation of science. The media reporting is even less so.

 

Not according to NASA who says atmospheric CO2 has risen by 2.5 +/- .01 ppm since 2017 alone. But even so, Nitrogen is mostly inert as a gas unless fixed by organic processes and Oxygen has nothing to do with climate so - so what. You are misunderstanding climate chemistry if you think that raising CO2 by what seems like trivial amounts by ppm on the websites you get your information from - (which actually amounts to roughly 36 gigatonnes of CO2 per year) - cannot have major effects on climate. Yes water vapor is a potent greenhouse gas and you can expect more of it as the oceans warm. that is a positive feedback effect of raising CO2 levels as is amounts of methane clathrates released from melting permafrost. That is what is so dangerous that when you start this ball rolling, positive feedback kicks in and the climate can change at alarming rates - which is in fact what we are seeing.

We have not seen these levels of CO2 in the atmosphere for over 800,000 years. This was a time when the sea levels were about 100 feet higher and there was little ice on the planet. Here is a graph of historic CO2 vs. temp. over that period taken from ice core data:


Temperature change (light blue) and carbon dioxide change (dark blue) measured from the EPICA Dome C ice core in Antarctica (Jouzel et al. 2007; Lüthi et al. 2008).

Here is another one from NASA:



When were these ice ages that started with more atmospheric CO2 than now of which you speak? If you are talking millions of years ago then you have to consider that the data may not be that accurate. Even so, other forcings such as Milankovitch cycles and volcanic activity certainly have an effect on climate but that is not the case today. Milankovitch is trending towards a long term cooling that may one day overtake warming from human caused CO2. But it will be about 40,000 years before we can expect significant cooling from orbital mechanics - at this rate the world will be a far different place by then so I wouldn't count on that to help you out.

Still, I would be interested in seeing data showing your ice ages starting at 15/10,000.........

 

Denial is no longer an option.

The crackpot notion that climate change is a "Chinese hoax!" is very, very silly.

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So basically, you want to decimate the global economy trying to address a situation that has yet to live up to any of the apocalypse stories that are played out?

Secondly, from the Sierra Club, second paragraph:

The status quo economy leaves millions behind. While padding the pockets of corporate polluters and billionaires, it exposes working class families, communities of color, and others to stagnant wages, toxic pollution, and dead-end jobs. The climate crisis only magnifies these systemic injustices, as hard-hit communities are hit even harder by storms, droughts, and flooding. Entrenched inequality, meanwhile, exacerbates the climate crisis by depriving frontline communities of the resources needed to adapt and cope.

The Green New Deal has NOTHING to do with actually combating CO2 emissions. It is nothing more than a Progressive Social Justice nightmare using fear tactics about climate change to push what is really perceived social justice agendas of the radical left.

 

Sooo.... let's just say I agree with you. That climate change is man-made.

Is your solution more social justice social engineering bullshit as presented in the Green New Deal?

Maybe, just maybe, people aren't jumping on the bandwagon of Climate Change because they can read between the lines about what the real motivations and agendas are... and these agendas have NOTHING to do with actually addressing climate change?

 

But like all Progressive social justice ideas of the radical left from the past , global warming mitigation will result in padding the pockets of the corporate polluters and billionaires by robbing the pockets of the working class. Surely this isnt a coincidence.

 

All governments are in on the scam.

 

When I was in grade school, my friends were worried by some televangelist the world was going to end. We built a 'bunker' out of fallen branches out in the woods to try and protect ourselves. We spent most of the day out there 'planning how we would survive' (read: playing in the woods). By dinner time we'd mostly forgot about it as nothing had happened. The televangelist didn't have any more air time after that.

I guess he should've waited 20 years or so and converted to a GW alarmist. He coulda been a billionaire.

 

Again no one believes climate doesn't change. The question is why and what if anything can we do about.