Why does the whistleblower's identity matter?

The same reason that attempted murder is a crime. But you know this. You're just being willfully dense.

 

Both sides knew about it.

 

in an attempted murder case, victim usually is aware, just survives.

so let’s say someone shoots you and you survive or someone tries to poison you, you survive. You are not going to defend the person who tried to kill you, will you?

in this alleged quid pro quo, ukraine insists nothing happened, they were not aware and saw no evidence of it.

 

Not that it is inevitable that President Trump will be acquitted from the house's attempt to have him impeached, meaning there is no impeachment, is it not time to end all these phoney impeachment threads?

 

Mike12's argument is irrelevant. Whether the victim is aware or not is not germane.

Despite the impending acquittal of the President, he will have always been impeached by the House of the Representatives.

 

Of course it will if the whistleblower worked for Biden and Brennan.

 

....and they look mighty stupid for doing it.

 

Your making sense, if you ignore all the real facts. There has been no credible evidence offered that proves that the President committed the offenses that the whistleblower or the Democrats in Congress claims. If you think about it, it all boils down to motivation. Did the President suspend the military aid to get Ukraine to investigate Biden? Or did he suspend the aid until he had a chance to determine whether Zelensky was going to fight corruption, or join it as some of his predecessors had done? You see it boils down to motivation.

The whistleblower made some claims that are clearly debunked by the transcript of the conversation. His lawyer tweeted, after President Trump was elected. "Coup has started." Then we hear that the whistleblower has ties to the Biden Campaign, and used to be on the former VP's staff. I have even read rumors that claims that he was in the meeting where Obama talked about Burisma, and was on the trip when Biden actually used a Quid pro quo to get the prosecutor fired.

Absent of proof of a real crime, the name, background and motivation of the whistleblower becomes very relevant.

 

This is about Trump being unsuitable as President and violating the Constitution, not about a whistleblower or the Bidens.

 

What’s wrong with transparency? Americans should know the leaker had been plotting against Trump since at least January 2017.

 

What exactly is wrong with Trump being transparent?

 

By the time Bloomberg is done with Trump, you will be able to see right through the Donald.

 

It's in the transcript (which is also missing 20 mins)...it's confirmed by multiple witnesses...it's confirmed by Bolton...it's confirmed by Parnas...it's confirmed by OMB files...it's confirmed by texts.

Do the math.

 

Trump manufactured the crisis. The whistleblower exposed it.

 

The motives were implied by his actions. The actions were confirmed by the evidence. He's guilty. Case closed.

But I know he'll stay in office another 4 years because the elections are rigged to keep him there. Plus, he has the backing of the six nations he colluded with originally to become president.

From the book, Proof of Conspiracy: How Trump's International Collusion is Threatening American Democracy

In late 2015, after Donald Trump has formally announced his candidacy for president, a geopolitical conspiracy emerges overseas whose key participats are the leaders of Russia, Israel, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, and Egypt. These six men decide that Trump is the antidote to their ills: for Russia, U.S. sanctions; for Israel, the lack of Arab allies; for Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, and Egypt, perceived threats emanating from Iran. The conspirators commit themselves to doing whatever is necessary to ensure that Trump is elected. Trump's presidential campaign is aware of and benefits from this conspiracy both before and afer the 2016 election.

 

No sir. There’s not a shred of evidence he did so TO BENEFIT HIS CAMPAIGN as opposed to finding out about a corrupt Vice President and his son.

There’s evidence he asked for the Ukraine to investigate. But there’s ZERO evidence from ANYONE, outside of the democrats managers specious claim, that he did so to benefit himself and not to address corruption.

None. Zero. If you’ve got it, let’s see it.

 

Corrupt how? Please be specific, none of the usual everybody knows or they're all lying. Something specific.

 

See, there is a difference between us.

Some individuals constantly look for a crisis in everything and anything just to make a scene and support their grief over losing the 2016 election. Kinda like the "orange man bad" syndrome.

Others, just look at the progress made and the good things that have made everyones life better like record low unemployment among all races, pension funds rising at record rates, the slowing of American participation in foreign conflicts, the fact America is holding our allies feet to the fire to manage and contribute to their own defense, stemming the tide of unchecked immigration, and finally the long list of newly appointed judges that will hopefully side with law and order and enforce the writings of the Constitution.

I could list the long list of obama's executive orders eliminated on week one lifting bans on hundreds of unnecessary rules and regulations that so hampered business, but we can save that for another time.

 

Yes, the motive for Trump was to re-elected.

 

Implied by his political opposition? Sorry implications are not fact nor evidence. So that is why had there been witnesses the WB would have been first and then Hunter Biden.

 

With rare exceptions everybody who ever gets elected wants to get re-elected.

 

Ukraine knew of stalled aid far earlier than White House claims, official testifies
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/nov/20/trump-impeachment-testimony-laura-cooper-ukraine-aid

 

That is no excuse for exceeding the power of office.

 

I already listed it. If you can't accept the mountain of evidence (plus Trump & Mulvaney's own admission to it) then you're in denial.

 

I don't know what you're talking about. Please address the evidence directly and stop trying to derail/distract with irrelevant material like the motives of democrats, Obama's administration, the whistleblower's ID, Hunter Biden, etc.