Brain washing of kids in school

Is this not a thread on brainwashing? Yet here you are expressing an opinion of liberals that does not square with reality. Where, I wonder did you get such an incorrect view. I’ll bet it came from listening to right wing rhetoric which horribly misinforms you.

 

And to think that this is a thread about brainwashing.

 

No, I'm just not gullible enough to do that.

I stated a stone cold fact. Its application to you specifically was of no concern. That aside, I don't doubt for a minute that the shoe fits.

Here you assume a fact not in evidence...

...and here you repeat your error - twice in the same phrase, no less. A predictably inauspicious beginning, I daresay...

...and you top it all off with a strawman that also manages to implicitly reject your own dubious premise.

You betcher sweet bippy I do.

He's been on my i-list for years; so come on and cry me a river for all the enlightenment I've missed by failing to attend to his drivel.

I'll just bet he did.

Better I should ask whether you have a clue as to what human consciousness is.

Thanks for nothing.

lol

Indeed, far be it from the y-man to gainsay your open-mindedness to the prospect of convicted child molesters teaching kindergarten.

Bearing that in mind, this might be a good time to question whether learning can in some cases serve as an engine of stultification.

 

Another example is that the children are told this is a democracy, the land of the free and home of the brave, even as we have had the highest per capita rate of imprisonment for nearly 50 years, as our government renders, tortures and commits military aggression to great applause.

 

Didn't liberals just get through trashing Trump for killing a terrorist responsible for hundreds of deaths and thousands of horrific injuries to US troops? Didn't they just lose yet another coup attempt on a duly elected president? Didn't their president give 2 billion dollars to a country who's favorite chant is death to America? I could go on but it should be obvious by now where and how I get my view of todays liberals.

 

Really? Just because it’s expanded to same sex, you don’t think the government decides who can marry? Really? Hmmm.

 

Sure I do. You think you are a liberal because you support rights you like. You don’t care about rights you don’t have a personal interest in. That’s not liberal.

 

You can only impeach a duly elected president. Do y’all not think these things through? If one is not duly elected what is there to impeach? It is not like you can impeach Hillary Clinton. Or Bob Dole.

 

Liberal is a form of religion.

 

Yea, I know how that works. I and my fiancee went down to get our marriage license. As we stood there, the clerk gave us a look of disapproval. After a long pause he waved over another couple. He made us switch partners. I ended up marrying the woman I had just met. When that marriage fell apart. Rather than go looking for love, I just went back to the courthouse and sat around until they assigned me another wife.

 

It hasn't happened overnight. Where did all those local people get their ideas?

 

I’ll bet they told you that at church over and over and over and over and over and.....

 

I don't go to church.

 

You don’t know what a liberal is.

 

You may be confusing classic liberalism with modern liberalism.

 

The war on drugs needs to be totally rethought. I know your last sentence was probably intended to make many conservatives (of which I am one twitch) but to me a true conservative is not a neocon. The people that do subscibe to neocon thinking should read this book.
https://www.amazon.com/Cobra-II-Inside-Invasion-Occupation-ebook/dp/B000GCFCK0/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1H7PJFC5B119B&keywords=cobra+ii+the+inside+story+of+the+invasion+and+occupation+of+iraq&qid=1580751190&sprefix=cobra+II,aps,162&sr=8-1

 

What happened when you went to get a license to marry your second wife?

 

Gullible people don’t examine evidence. So, if you refuse to examine all evidence you are gullible.

You’ve substantiated no claims. You offered your opinion.

Please make a case for state involvement in marriage. Something more substantial than tradition.

I’m not in error. I’m the one able to look at issues without fear, anger, or frustration. The mere existence of different views seems to wind you up...

I’ve stayed on topic. You are welcome to explain why gay people shouldn’t be able to subject themselves to the state the same as straight people. Can you?

Ummm, no evidence for your claim.

So again you admit aversion to differing opinions and information. Seems to be a pattern. I also see patterns on PF of members ignoring those they are unable to debate unemotionally with.

Yes, @FreshAir surely did.

Human consciousness is the reason I ask “why” and care about information. Without it, I’d just react to stimuli as it seems some here do when confronted with something outside their comfort zone. Why dodge my question on epigenetics?

It would be nice if you didn’t cut out parts of my quotes. You are arguing with someone who views transgenderism as a mental illness. To me it’s no different than someone believing they are Napoleon Bonaparte. We don’t give people who think they are Napoleon command of the French armed forces. Neither should we indulge the fantasies of transgenders. What we should do is strive to understand the causes and come up with solutions so that all people can live happy, productive lives. Instead of blowing the whole thing off as ridiculous or stupid, we need to delve into areas of study such as epigenetics and behavioral epigenetics. I’m convinced we are on the verge of great discoveries in these fields that will help many people suffering with mental and physical disabilities/diseases.

I am sorry you feel the way you do. This attitude makes me think of a dude running around from table to table at an ice cream social telling everyone who will listen that ice cream is disgusting. When questioned, he admits he has never eaten ice cream and never will. Further questioning reveals the man does not even know what ice cream is made from or the process by which it is produced. When these things are spoken of, he covers his ears, rushes away, and finds another ice cream eater to inform that ice cream is nasty.

Ummm, someone mentioned strawmen! In no way have I condoned any circumstance where convicted child molesters end up teaching kindergarten. Bizarre.

I believe we should question everything.

 

Liberals do not advocate for things like marriage license requirements such as mandatory statement of race before issuance, waiting periods before the marriage, race based blood testing requirements, and denials of issuance on suspicion of drug/alcohol impairment.

 

lol, speaking of gullibility.

Of course they do, when said evidence is presented as a means of commanding their attention by deceivers.

No doubt the gullible will find this proposition every bit as compelling as those who deceive them find it useful.

Which, in the present case, is also the truth. Enjoy.

I shall be happy to, the minute you demonstrate the logical dependence of anything I said on that premise.

Of course you are.

More accurately, you do a pretty OK job of faking equanimity.

No doubt hope springs eternal in your ilk.

Congratutlations. You've also made every error I detailed, which of course explains all these predictable rhetorical smokescreens of yours.

Seeing I never came within lightyears of claiming any such thing, your challenge is hopelessly idiotic. You're welcome.

No, I admit aversion to idiotic opinions and worthless information, like anyone else with a lick of sense. You're welcome.

Actually, if indeed you are so endowed, none would ever know it by your conduct here.

I'll cut out anything I damn well please. Don't like it, go snivel to someone who cares.

That makes one of us.

That would be me. Your point being...?

Waddaya want, a medal?

Then clearly you are best served to question why the hell you challenge me to prove assertions I've never made or even implied.

 

Funny guy. Ad hominem bores me at this point. You’ve clearly demonstrated complete lack of knowledge on the subject matter by refusing to answer any questions. The last word is yours. Let the emotions out.

ps. Try the ice cream someday. You’ll be glad you did.

 

You are correct JET. Traditional conservativism has many good points. The neocons who came in under Bush have been fatal to this country.

Some of the most vocal critics of the drug prohibition have been William Buckley, Milton Friedman and other traditional conservatives.

The drug prohibition has grossly distorted US society, yet conservatives (especially neocons) and liberals alike keep it alive. Fear reigns, and reason is suppressed.

 

All of a sudden your determination to "question everything" has disintegrated. Whoda seen that one coming, right?

 

It works in many ways - but the process is not as you suggest.

 

Not at all. I think the confusion comes from faults within conservative ideology. After all, in the grand scheme of things, the United States is a liberal democracy. (A republic is a type of democracy.) Thus American conservatives are in fact conservative liberals.