Vindman Escorted From White House After Trump’s Senate Acquittal

Have democrats considered impeachment.

 

No digger/subordinate is required to cover up a superior's misconduct. His duty is to report it.

 

People here are being critical of Vindman and Sondlands because they told the truth and in doing so dumped on the Boss. It is said they were insubordinate (even traitorous) and thus deserved to be fired. They acted honourably unlike for example Mulvaney who is taking the Nuremberg position.

 

Clinton was a known draft dodger.

Outrage?

 

what does clinton have to do in todays issues??

Clinton being a scum bag does not make trump innocent

trump makes Clinton look like a choir boy

clinton is responsible for Rush Limbaughs popularity ...I would listen to Rush and agree with him

then Limbaugh got arrested for drug trafficking because he was eating 50 oxycontin pills a day

then I realized I had been listening to a whacked out drug addict

I have been a conservative my entire life

until a scumbag named trump came along and brainwashed half the country

thankfully only the small half are in his cult

the big half of the country see what he is actually doing

 

They leaked classified information, since the President has been acquitted of the false charges against him let's call it what it is: A security leak, the 5th. FIFTH such one of this administration. Like other posters pointed out, not only did Obama do more but he had far less insurgency in his WH.

 

He is not required to tolerate illegal orders or activity. He did his duty.

 

Did you expect them to lie under oath to protect Trump?

 

I expected them not to give classified information to the Washington Post, it was due to this leaking of classified information that President Trump had to release the transcript. If I worked for the Trump Administration, I wouldn't leak or seek to undermine the President's policies. And if I thought something was illegal or wrong? I'd report it to my superiors and/or speak to the President himself. It'd be totally closed doors and private.

Instead, it became the epic fail that as Trump said: Lap it all up.

 

who is "them" you refer to?? who leaked it? .. Vindman or his superiors??

trump released the redacted transcript not a recording of the call

Vindman did exactly what he was supposed to do...report his suspicions to his direct superiors

as I said

Vindman was a marine long before trump came along and will be around long after trump is gone

and he can say he served his country with honesty and integrity

can trump??

 

You say "Vindman was a Marine." He was not a Marine.

 

Your conflating Vindman's role as a witness with that of accuser. Lets be clear they are two entirely different roles be it during the Presidential impeachment process or any other form of civil/criminal/administrative legal proceeding in the US.

As a witness he was obliged to testify as to his knowledge of the events in question, that all. Vindman was not the prosecutor in these proceeding, he didn't initiate Trumps impeachment process and he was certainly not involved in the determining Trumps guilt or innocence. As such he doesn't have to believe Trump is anything criminal or otherwise, just give his evidence and walk out.

And that has no bearing on his ability to carry out orders. For better or worse Trump was found innocent the moral and ethical position would simply be for both men to return to their respective duties and leave it to Vindman to make the call as to whether he should in due course leave. In fact making a point of letting Vindman say in his role, at least while he considered future options could have earned Trump a lot of brownie points and put him on the high moral ground in this instance, particularity if he made a point of letting the public know he was not going to retaliate against witnesses. Fat chance of that though.

 

The dude leaked to the WP post. If he hadn't leaked to outside sources, there's a chance this could have happened. Alas, he leaked and now the WH team rightly doesn't trust him. In a 9/5 job, insubordination gets you fired. Same thing here. People still don't get that in the "age of Trump". This is no longer keep a job for 50 years Washington.

 

Vindman was supposed to conspire to overthrow an elected President?

You have a bizarre conception of what one is supposed to do.

 

Lol

Free Market is a misnomer. All markets are managed.

But feel free to point out anything that was incorrect in my statement of the Canadian political and economic system.

Or are you just gonna look at the word free and make up everything else around it?

 

Where is your proof that Vindman and/or Sindlands leaked to the WP?

 

Alot.

Clinton was also impeached. But Clinton was charged with, and committed an actual crime.

Clinton also dodged the draft. Nobody on the left ever brings that up. That's known as the inconvenient truth.

Clinton was also accused by multiple women of sexual assault. Again, ignored and even defended by the left.

Clinton also presided over a good economy.

Being in the past doesn't mean it has no relevancy today. In fact, now more than ever the past is relevant.

 

I never mentioned the free market in my response anywhere Cubed. Did you even read it?

Its understandable when you are busy trying to sell the emperor's new clothes you don't want anyone throwing some reality into the mix so of course you ran from debating any of the facts I put forth as usual

Oh and to answer your question, if you actually had a free market system you wouldn't send thugs from the government to bring in an author for writing a book for profit because the current liberals in charge don't like it while ignoring the other 24 books written during the election that were pro government.

Please at least look up the definition of a free market before you respond and I have to break out the dictionary again,

 

wow I am beginning to think actual Russians are posting here

let see .. Clinton was president from 1993 to 2000

it must be really difficult to carry around the hate for Clinton for over 20 years ..

I do admit I think trump is a lying perverted scumbag ..

he has been accused over 25 times of sexual harassment and has paid many to stay silent

he barebacks a porn star and paid her to be silent before the election

he also paid a playboy bunny ..and the worst of all his perverted actions

he has publicly said he want to date his own daughter and gushed like a smitten teenager on TV towards her

and despite his disgusting behavior

when he is no longer in the Whitehouse I will not give him a second thought

too bad you cannot say the same about a president in office 20 years ago

here is a great mantra for you that may help your insanity

Clintons are gone Clintons are gone

and if that don't ease your pain try this

Obama is gone Obama is gone

 

I know. That's what makes it so hilarious. You literally saw the word free and jumped without realizing I said Free (managed) market economic system.

...do you actually know what a free (managed) market means? It has very very little to with books and authors.

Maybe read that dictionary of yours for once. Perhaps "off topic" would be a good start?

 

The use of the word "demand" in the complaint, which Vindman specifically stated himself in the closed door deposition with Rep. Ratcliffe.(R-Texas). It didn't take much from there to put 2+2=4.

 

I have no idea what you are referring to. Links?

 

As far as I am aware Lt Col. Vindman has been accused of leaking to the press. An accusation he has strenuously and publicly denied. Wheres the proof? Secondly what was his twin brothers crime, apart from sharing the same DNA that is? Doesn't seem like Trump wanted 'proof', just revenge.

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Lying under oath to a Federal Grand Jury and witness tampering to get another witness to lie under oath, both felonies. There is no comparison to Trump.