Bernie the communist

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  1. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

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    He honeymooned in the USSR and has praised Communism for decades, yet many Liberals would happily vote for him. When people complain about lack of civility in politics, I find it very hard to be civil with people who would cheer for socialism or communism in our country. I consider that to be hostile actions to undermine the USA.

    Our country became the world superpower under capitalism, it works. If you like standing in breadlines instead of shopping for your choice of bread, feel the Bern![​IMG]
     
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    Have you ever heard of the DEPRESSION????
     
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    FatBack Well-Known Member

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    Yes, are you a Bernie fan?
     
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    Socialist / Communist, you say potato I say pota'to, you say tomato I say toma'to and on and on. You say Bernie is a loser I say, you are correct.
     
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    Yes and under communism it never ends and if you complain about it your neighbors turn you in and you disappear. Are you defending communism?
     
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    Millions are trying to get into the USA. So how many are heading for socialism and communism countries? Compare the numbers and you will see what people like best. Let's not change the greatest system ever devised by man. A vote for Bernie is a vote for a change -- just so you understand how your life will be much worse.
     
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    The fact that we are even having this conversation of Bernie having more than a snowball's chance at the nomination is an indication that the American Way and the American Dream is in grave danger.
     
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    Trump the racist.
     
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    With respect, do you know the difference between socialism and communism? Do you realize the United Sates with Unemployment Insurance, Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, FDIC, and other federal programs make the United States a country that is a "free-enterprise" capitalist, and socialist state? One can quibble over the definitions, but that is who we are.
     
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    I think the technical term is 'state capitalism.' The term was coined to describe the post-communist Russian system, but its what we also technically became with the bank and auto bailouts.

    I don't think Bernie is technically a communist, but don't tell that to his supporters (well, you can, but they won't listen), a large chunk of them are communists who believe Bernie is one of them.

    Certainly he wants to reduce the voluntary nature of our economy and increase the bureaucratic command and control authority over our financial will.
     
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    You are confusing Socialism with Totalitarian Communism. You also seem to believe that Bernie is more Socialist than Trump - which is a falsehood.
     
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    Off topic.
     
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    Show me the evidence he is a member of the communist party.

    He believes in the democratic socialism of some nordic states. Capitalism is the economic model . The govt does not own the production of goods and services as you see in socialism .The private sector does. Like our model capitalism finances a Commons. A commons existed a very long time before Marx. He sure didnt invent the commons!

    The problem is the poor education of those who havent a clue what about the differences. At least call him what he is by definition...a democratic socialist which is not the socialism or communism of marx. It is the capitalism of fdr that helped to create the largest middle class in world history. While what you believe in is destroying that middle. Socialism nor communism doesn't create a large middle and neither does the deafening sucking sound of GOP and Dr dem neoliberal globalism created by our elites to only enrich themselves by exploitation of others .
     
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    He honeymooned in the USSR, he has praised communism for decades. Why are you asking for proof? Is that not enough?
     
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    Thanks for you're profound addition.
     
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    Who cares - the idea that Bernie has the power to turn the US into some Stalin Style commie system is preposterous nonsense. The idea that Bernie would want such a thing is preposterous nonsense.

    Your argument is really bad... sorry ..
     
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    OK, just pretend a Commy who seeks the highest office, cant push communism.
     
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    you are hopelessly lost in some fantasy that you have created - one that does not reflect reality. Bernie does not have the power - even if he wanted to - to turn USA into Stalinist Russia - you are hyperbolizing well beyond the pale.
     
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    this is a stew full of innuendo and character assassination with just enough fact to flavor the broth.
     
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    So if someone honeymoons in Mexico, they're members of the drug cartels?
     
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    Are you asking Trump, because I think we already know his answer!
     
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    What about it?
     
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    Are you familiar with an ostrich with it's head in the sand?
     
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    The term was around well before the fall of Communism and was actually in use by Communists themselves. I encountered Trotskyites using it to describe the USSR - an attempt to distance their 'pure' or 'correct' form of Communism from pretty much every actual Communist regime.

    I don't know if they or other Communists actually originated the term and I've never heard anyone use it to refer to post-USSR Russia, but if they did they were borrowing.


    Um, no. You were just a regular old mixed economy of the sort that exists all over the Western world.
     

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