September 2023, 3 years into Sanders presidency..

Nothing you posted was correct. Sorry.

and then there’s what actually happened. Biden, at the behest of the president and the international community, was sent to remove a corrupt prosecutor.

I have no issue with you investigating biden.

 

I don’t know. How many more years are the libs going to give Obama credit for Trumps economy?

 

They wouldn't, and I have pointed this out in several of my posts.

Let's say that, instead of Obama having been president, a Republican had been president with Trump as his VP, and Trump did everything the Bidens did. In 2016, Hillary had been elected president, and she did everything Trump did with regard to Ukraine. Now, Trump is running for president against Hillary. Would Schiff, Nadler, and Pelosi be impeaching her?

Of course not. We know this. It's not even debatable.

More likely, they would be defending her to the nth degree for trying to uncover the corruption of Donald Trump and his son. They would be claiming that the public had a right to know everything since Trump was running for president.

There is zero chance that they would find anything wrong with what Hillary did, much less impeach her for it.

And that being the case, the impeachment case against Trump has no legs. It lacks legitimacy. It was purely political.

 

exactly, so you don't question whether Biden should be investigated or not; in fact, you agree, the circumstances are suspicious. You just don't think Trump should do it, as essentially, the chief law enforcement officer in the nation. If not Trump, who?

goes back to the position you hold. As long as you are a political rival, you can get away with things.

In the end, the matter was politicized in a gross manner, this should've NEVER let to impeachment.

 

September 2023, 3 years into Sanders presidency..

The U.S. borders are wide open
FREE healthcare to all
Treasury is broke
Family and I have moved to Mexico as land is cheap and plentiful.

 

You are pointing out that our parties are made up of people with little in values , prolific dishonesty , with a great lack of principles and integrity ..

Our politicians are a caricature of the worst kind of representatives that any citizenry can be cursed with

They are owned by special interests who finance their campaigns and spend much time fighting the other party for power , wanting to be on top for all of the usual reasons .

Given this most certain reality it is a given the behavior of the political class has to be full of hypocrisy, dishonesty and zero integrity. The only principle they exercise is the total lack of principle , goodness and decency .

If only the American voter gave a ****! But too few do. Because to them it is a football game and all that matters is winning and beating that enemy....Americans from that other tribe!

We are not Americans but gang members . The blue gang and the red gang. Americans first? Forget about it!

We have allowed the ruling elite to divide us that serves as a dangerous distraction so that our form of govt is a form of fascism that got rid of the line that separates a republic from from the demands of a small group that has the power of govt serving only their economic interests.

The 2 parties fight one another hard and dirty in order to be the people who stays on its knees in the fellatio position to service the only people worthy of representation. A metaphorical Koch Sucka!

Suckers for people like the Koch family.

 

100% agreed!

 

i think you are wrong, a Sanders presidency would be the most uneventful and unproductive era and would surely only last 4 years, if that. Even many democrats oppose him, he would be like a puppet, congress wouldn’t let him do anything. Sanders would need to resort to executive orders to get anything done but he is too passive to even do that. He talks a lot, talks tough but lacks the balls to go around congress.

i remember once bernie was doing a rally and a few loud and obnoxious black females jumped on stage and shoved him aside, took his mic and basically took over the sanders speech and turned it into a BLM speech/rally. We want someone like this taking on adversaries? We would be invaded in 2 weeks.

 

already answered this.

no. the president just can't solicit a foreign government to investigate a political rival, for personal political gain.

of course it should have. presidents are not kings. They need to be held accountable for their actions. Nobody forced trump to abuse his power or obstruct congress. he chose to do that himself.

 

yes he can, especially when circumstance around political rival deserve investigating. Political rivals don't have a license to be corrupt. Personal gain is a matter of opinion, Biden is a stuttering fool and most likely won't even win nomination, he would be much easier to defeat than Sanders, who is a socialist but can get youth to turn out and quick on his feet on debates. Why didn't Trump investigate Sanders? because it's Biden who is tied to corrupt like behavior.

King? Does Trump own the federal government? the land? Is he hanging political rivals? Is his son heir to the throne? His wife a queen? Do you ever stop to think how absurd these statements are? akin to those who compare Trump to Hitler.

Trump merely asked Ukraine to look into the very corrupt like actions of Bidens, if there is nothing there, nothing to worry about. Whether you want to admit your double standard/hypocrisy or not, no need, everyone knows you would be here demanding president sanders investigate Trump if Trump and his son were caught in similar circumstances and you wouldn't care a dime if Trump were a political rival or not, you know it, i know it, the world knows it.

 

he quite demonstrably can not. It's why trump is impeached.

Sanders has no chance of winning the nomination. Biden was the front runner at the time trump tried to have him brought down by a foreign government. If trump cared about biden or corruption he would have investigated the matter in 2017, or 2018. Instead he waited until biden announced his candidacy.

strawman

and can't do that, for reasons stated. He abused his power by doing so, and was subsequently impeached.

you can not point to any double standard or hypocritical thing I've posted. You know it, I know it, and the world knows it. I clearly said sanders would be just as wrong as trump was.

 

Glenn Beck layed that out scenario

 

he was impeached by a house which abused it's powers, a house that promised impeachment from the day he got elected. Maybe you have forgotten all the witchhunts and the promises of impeachment which started on day 1. 0 republicans in house voted for impeachment, it was a hoax, sham, scam.

Sanders is the favorite, Biden is a stuttering fool who the left just destroyed with the ukraine hoax (yeah, people actually think Biden's actions were corrupt and it's hurting him now).

avoiding the issue. You said King, King's don't merely ask someone to look into possible corruption of rivals, they simply imprison or execute rivals. Nothing king like about Trump's actions.

Nope, he didn't abuse his powers, the house ABUSED it's powers and the results prove it. 1 out 249 republicans in congress voted for impeachment and that 'one' vote was a never trumper from day 1. When you can only get 1 never Trumper to vote for it, out of 249 republicans, it's a hoax. Any impeachable offense would ALWAYS get more bipartisan support, this failed the test, HOAX, SCAM, SHAM, pre-announced the day Trump became president.

that's what you say, we know it's not true, you won't destroy your credibility on these forums.

 

your batshit crazy conspiracy theories do not change reality. A president can not solicit a foreign government to help him defeat a domestic political rival. It's why trump is impeached.

not at the time trump abused his power. Biden was the front runner.

trump thinks rules and laws don't apply to the presidency. His claim of "absolute immunity" shows he thinks he is a king and congress has no oversight of him.

reality shows otherwise.

Yes, the impeachment of Donald trump in both the house and senate was bipartisan, with ONLY republicans voting against impeachment.

 

no, he just asked for Ukraine to look into possible corruption because Biden and his son engaged in corrupt like behavior and they are not above the law.

the house abused it's powers

King's execute and imprison those who oppose them. They also are above the law so Biden's actions seem to be closer to KIng's who use their powers to protect family.

Reality shows the house abused it's it's powers and Biden's actions were corrupt

1. Impeachment was announced the day Trump got elected president
2. 0 out of 196 republicans voted for impeachment
3. Impeachment led to two key results which proves it was a hoax:
a.) Trump's polls #'s shot up
b.) Biden has fallen off the cliff, which shows more and more Americas view him as corrupt

You are confusing bipartisan with partisan, i corrected you, above, in bold.

 

It won’t take till 2023 because an independent commission will be set loose in January 2021 to comb through our government’s departments with a fine tooth comb.

The combination of cocky and not too bright is going to haunt the current administration of the best people.

 

which he is not allowed to do, as that is soliciting a foreign government to help him defeat a domestic political rival. It's why he's impeached.

not according to the constitution.

no

not according to the constitution. Biden was directed by the president, with international support to remove a prosecutor. The two are in no way comparable.

no it wasn't.

in the house. the vote to impeach was bipartisan, so was the vote to remove from office.
[/QUOTE]3. Impeachment led to two key results which proves it was a hoax:
a.) Trump's polls #'s shot up
b.) Biden has fallen off the cliff, which shows more and more Americas view him as corrupt

You are confusing bipartisan with partisan, i corrected you, above, in bold.[/QUOTE]
Clinton is also an extremely popular president, despite impeachment. Trump, in a supposed booming economy, can't even get to 50%. Biden is falling in the poles because he has made so many gaffs. I have no problem opening an investigation into Biden. Have at it. But the president can't solicit a foreign government to help him defeat a domestic political rival. That's why he is impeached.