Bernie Sanders Has an MSNBC Problem

That's true for all the dems. Except for Biden.

That said our government doesn't need ideas. Government doesn't need to be doing anything other than getting out of people's way.
We don't need any more laws, no new policies, no new taxes.

There is almost nothing for Congress to do.

 

Oh, we've had much higher taxes than this in the nation's history. Although, to be fair, Bernie doesn't just want to raise the marginal rate by 5%, which is what someone like Clinton would propose. Bernie wants to destroy the billionaire class. Tax them to death. THAT is something we've never tried before.

This is ridiculous. I'm not a Democrat because of "stuff", I'm a Democrat because I think their policies are best for the country and for people: gay rights, women's rights, civil rights, reducing income inequality, regulating big banks, CLIMATE CHANGE, etc.

Now, are there Democrats who want the goodies? Sure. Just like there are people on the GOP side who want the tax cuts. That's not unique to any one side.

Of course. I don't hate rich people because I'm in a job that insulates me from being exploited by them. But if I had lost my good factory job to some robot, and then had to work in an Amazon "fulfillment center", while Bezos makes his $2,000 a minute (or whatever insane amount it is), I think I would be a little resentful about that.

Bernie is tapping into the same rage that made Trump's victory possible.

 

Well, we don't have to try it because every communist country already has with disastrous results in 100% of instances.

France tried it too more recently and well it sucked for them too.

 

You're forgetting 2018, when Democrats had their best turnout in 40 years and beat the GOP by about 9 points.

But yes, the signs so far are disturbing. Turnout had been disappointing. For now, I'm chalking it up to the pathetic Dem field. There's not one of them who doesn't have some kind of crazy baggage, except Klobachar. It will be a turnout battle, and I just don't know what young people are going to do if it's Bernie. My 19 year old is completely apolitical. Except when it comes to Bernie. He plans on voting for him. Bernie, for all of 2016, was the only Democrat articulating the despair that was being felt by out-of-work/downsized/saddled with student loan debt Democrats.

Presidential reelections are always referendums on the President. In 2024, there will be policy battles. Right now, it's all about whether Trump should stay or not.

 

Oh well.

1) Nobody is forcing anyone to watch MSNBC

2) Nobody is forcing anyone to vote the way MSNBC tells them to.

3) This is an OPINION Piece, and Staff Writers at NR are entitled to theirs.

 

I would actually agree with that for the most part, I tend to prefer when the control is split among the different parties/branches and we end up with standoff's and nothing happening, I consider that a good thing.

 

And obviously he should. Nearly everything is going Absolutely great. Disagreeing just makes you wrong.

Massive government spending cuts would be great.. like in half.

 

Except that the political Left had absolutely no justification in regards to Hillary.

 

I agree with some of that, it's just the methods of getting what they want that turns me off. Then also all that Democrat treason during the war on terror... Jobs say reduces income inequality. Regulating banks, almost there, like say, end slavery:

End of slavery:

“The Federal Reserve's rule told credit card companies that they no longer can consider household income when assessing the creditworthiness of an individual who applies for his or her own card. Under the rule, only an individual's own salary or other income -- rather than combined household income -- can be considered.”
Read more: http://www.creditcards.com/credit-c...cards-household-income-1282.php#ixzz3WiwAm9JK

Slavery reinstituted:

“U.S. Reps. Carolyn Maloney, D-NY, and Louise Slaughter, D-NY, both among the principal authors of the CARD Act, said the rule ‘goes beyond the intent’ of the law and ‘represents a serious risk for women in abusive domestic partnerships.’"
Read more: http://www.creditcards.com/credit-c...cards-household-income-1282.php#ixzz3Wivmh5r8

Climate change, somewhat related to jobs, it's a market we should not lose.

 

So what?

Faux News is State-Sponsored Trump Propaganda.

Pot meet Kettle.

Besides the link in the OP is an OPINION Piece, and I don't think that Shephard has any idea what he is even talking about.

^So, there's that.

 

Bernie Sanders, the surest way for Trump to get 4 more years

 

but I totally want socialism!
Raise my taxes and move some illegals into my neighborhood, pretty please with 2 scoops!

/sarc

 

More fake news but I that is expected from you. Fox News is tops in total viewers. lol

"State Sponsored".... lol

Pure comedy.

 

I find the MSNBC spin on political stories to be fascinating. There’s always an agenda lurking behind how they shade the news.

It’s more interesting than Fox or CNN, even though CNN basically does what MSNBC does.

 

I thought she went there to get the questions for the Fox debates to pass them on to the DNC establishment heir...

 

Not exactly though. Bernies biggest fans don’t want to work hard. They want to work less and get paid more. Many don’t even want to pay for we’ve all paid for...they want it free as a human right. They’re insane.

 

Well, she did beat him. It's not like there was no chance of her winning.

 

Bernie's socialism is not actual socialism. He doesn't want govt. to control the means of production. He wants to expand the two current popular socialist programs: Medicare and public education. And he wants massive taxes on the rich (also popular). It's not like he wants the govt. making your shoes.

 

Someone should purchase $10 worth of Venezuelan currency to "make it rain" at a Bernie rally. Pictured is only $3 worth.

 

I believe the Chinese gov't makes my shoes.

And bernie has made it quite clear that he thinks I would be delighted with higher taxes in exchange for healthcare. This will save me the same money that Obama's $2500 did, (zip) His plans leave me hanging with higher costs, I'll pass.

RE: education I have zero interest in taxpayer's funding college, that's a bad plan as well.

I do think he's a straight shooter, at least he's honest that we'll see higher taxes, I just don't expect the reduced health costs idea to work.

If he win's i'll deal with it, like I always do, but I can't vote for him, its just not happening.

 

These young people will believe anything a professor tells them. It's a form of mental retardation.

 

Fair enough. I have a feeling Trump supporters secretly kind of like Bernie. He's the Left's equivalent to Trump. Although, in the matter of character, the two couldn't be more different.

 

I voted 3rd party, but I would have voted for bernie (I likely would have regretted it later)
at the time, IMO, he was the only genuine person in the race.

My wife voted Trump, she also would haven't hesitated to vote for bernie.

I can probably come up with 5 or more peeps that like my wife would have gone with Bernie.

However, 2016 was a different time, and we all know a LOT more about his plans and the costs related to them than we do now.
His ideas were really never fully exposed/vetted because hillary won the nomination and it all just faded away.

Most importantly,
I do NOT discount his momentum,
I do NOT discount his supporters,
I do NOT discount the non bernie dems that will vote for him just because they hate trump.
I do NOT discount the 3rd party and independents that will give him due consideration.

So basically, even though I personally will not vote for him, I think anyone that says he has no chance really needs to re-think that idea, he has a strong base, if he wins the nomination, he should be taken very seriously.

 

I liked Bernie last time he ran. I still like Bernie. imo he has considerable charisma and is a likeable guy.

I just hate his political philosophy and his policies.

 

It does not matter who the democrat nominee is. The democrat nominee will be not-Trump.
Trump will not only define himself; he will also define his opponent.
If Trump is pro-American, the not-Trump candidate will be anti-American.
If Trump zigs, the not-Trump candidate will zag.
This entire election is a referendum on President Trump's presidency. Anyone else involved is ancillary at best.