Kelly defends Viniman

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  1. Chuck711

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    When John Kelly and Rex Tillerson was there it was Trumps best a A Team ( That being said ........ Trumps " A " team is pretty bad by most standards )

    Since then Trump is off the rail and has been Impeached. Lying has ramped up considerably

    Bloomberg said it Best " Trump is a barking Carnival Clown "
     
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    While the political circus goes own Trump has been busy changing the status quo. Flying under the radar.

    The dems are stoogies. Trump plays them like a violin. And they dont even see it.
     
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    Nor do most of the world .......... just a small part of the American electorate
     
  4. Jimbo11

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    R i g h t....trump is pure....Everyone else lies. This is the typical trump cult answer.....
     
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    Of course, I never said anything of the kind- you just made that up. And that is why nobody believe the left.... if they ain't got it, they just fake it.... Let's not, and say we did. Grade school playground rules.
     
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    Ohhh....you trump supporters illustrate ignorance in nearly every word....trump is busy turning the US into s Banana Republic where his friends are rewarded with governmental favors and his enemies are trashed.....he continues to turn the presidency into a Autocracy....and repubs hide their heads in sand.
     
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    Oh Please. The dems somewhere along the hateway decided that truth no longer matters, if you are angry enough, everything is justified. Your allegation is an example of the pure string of BS that we are seeing everyday. The dems have probably set a record for the longest unbroken string of political defeats in history, yet don't learn a damn thing.
     
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    This is some of the best evidence that trumpers are dim cultists. How many times have you seen it? Trump hires a person and they are the smartest, best man for the job. They leave (as MOST end up doing) and they go from war hero patriot to trump hating, treasonous RINO. Even men with impeccable reputations. Look at yourselves in the mirror, trumpers. You are not healthy.
     
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    And you base this on.... what? If your steaming pile of horseshit were true this sentiment wold be well known BEFORE the Ukraine scandal.
    You guys make up ad-hoc bullshit so often, it's hard to take anything you say seriously.
     
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    Would you like to provide examples of that long record as an 'anti-Trumper'? I went looking and only found opinion pieces from the right suggesting he was a double agent. Of course, if that was the case, I think that he deserves stiffer punishment than online bullying, televised berating from Fox and incessant tweets from POTUS. Don't you? I mean a double agent is a serious thing!

    And could you explain the firing of Vindman's brother?

    As for vicious attacks after firings - aren't you referring to Trump there? It isn't enough for Trump to fire people - he has to call them names in public and online and plant seeds of doubt with regards to patriotism.

    Trump has made it crystal clear - follow me or I will destroy you! Ya gotta love democracy and freedom of speech!
     
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    You should take it seriously, because it is is the reason that the political scoreboard is reading: D: ZERO R: GAZILLIONS

    Self deception causes you to lose. If you are losing every contest, it defines your problem precisely.

    And the info on Vindman was known before- it just wasn't newsworthy on it's own. He was hardly of importance to anyone before he became a dem stooge.
     
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    Just random stories from those in his classes and some that have been interviewed who served with him. They carry the same credibility as anything that comes out of the WaPo, NYT, MSNBS, and CNN.
     
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    You basically accused Vindman of perjuring himself. He had the guts to testify under oath in front of congress. None of Trump and his henchmen testified. Do you ever wonder why?
     
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    I'm not a dem and I don't care about your imaginary match.



    Oh it was? Link please. Or are you full of sh!t?
     
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    I wonder why democrats behind this crap can't find the guts to be honest or fair. I see that as a tragic thing for America- for an entire political group to be disintegrating and discarding integrity out of malice.
    Only an idiot pretends a kangaroo court is legit, and validates it by pretending it's not what it is and laying down for them. If none of them testified in defense and the dems case still failed- doesn't that tell you something?

    NO republicans were involved in the charges in the first place- it was nothing more than a political partisan attack, the next big shot after the Russian Dossier attempt was de-bunked. There will be another such effort following soon- and more democrats are going to find their tolerance for the childish vendetta mentality stretched beyond limits.

    This isn't invisible stuff. Any democrat willing to take an honest look at what is happening to his own party has got to be literally appalled and shamed by what they see. Some are of course- and they are defecting. One in a story this morning is a democratic senator who voted against the president two weeks ago- but is now saying he thinks he will be supporting the president for re-election. No, it's not on CNN, they don't share such things, and their lemmings don't want to see them anyway. True, none the less.

    "Democratic Sen. Joe Manchin, D-W.Va., said he could potentially endorse President Trump for reelection just a week after he voted to convict the president for abuse of power, according to a report published Thursday."

    The defections, people running from the extremism and immorality of their own party, seems to be getting widespread; creeping up the ladder.
     
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    So you want me to do your homework and convince you; and think a personal insult dignifies it.
    Vindman was born in the Ukraine. He has been offered the position of Minister of Defense by the Ukraine- three times. Even Wikipedia details it.
    Thats in the Wall Street Journal, among other places. He was in a meeting, white house I believe- with two other Ukraine people where it was disclosed that there were efforts to undermine the Trump candidacy. That meeting was kept under the rug by Obama- but those two people have agreed to testify. Very little coverage on what but it's negative for both the dems and Vindman.

    Call those starting points. Go do your own homework, unless you prefer to stay in the dark.
     
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    I don't care where he was born, Vindman is a highly decorated officer in the United States Army.
    I was not able to find any reference to your conspiratorial meeting. If he was a known dem operative he would have been fired before the scandal. I think I can ascertain all that I need to know. I don't need to invent ad hoc justification out of whole cloth to force reality into my preconceived view.
     
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    I understand that you do not care.
     
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    Tell me....which Democrat mouthed the term "Alternative Facts." I will wait......

    Okay....you will never find one
    ....Kelly Anne POS Conway was the one who stated that trump and his Regime throws out lies on a regular basis....Between FOX and trump....we will be drowning in lies as November approached.....

    Thank you for Playing....
     
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    An appeal to authority (Kelly is a war hero) logic fallacy.
     
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    Vietnam...the war that made trump grow bone spurs overnight?
     
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    False claim. Total failure to understand that we have three branches of government. Extreme hyperbole.

    Read.
    https://government.mrdonn.org/3branches.html
     
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    Tell me...which Democrat mouthed the phrase "Russian Collusion"?

    Answer...ALL OF THEM!!!!!
     
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    Did you serve in Vietnam?
     
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    Of course, the dems don't call anything they say alternative facts. They just manufacture them.
    The national referendum in November is being held to find out who has the real facts on their side.
     

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