Barr says Trump's tweets about DOJ cases make it 'impossible to do my job'

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  1. Egoboy

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    Well, I just heard Barr's DOJ is not pursuing charges against Andrew McCabe, so there's that..

    I expect Trump to tweet about that in 3.....2......1
     
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    Saw that! Kinda surprised honestly.
     
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    Whereas if he was a terrorist Jihadi he should have been given $10 million and flown around giving speeches.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Fewer than the Senate intelligence committee head that leaked classified info to a reporter he was sleeping with and got 2 months in jail.
     
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    So because other crimes go unpunished, all crimes may go unpunished? That's quite the precedent....

    Nice deflection. I'd probably avoid the actual topic too if I couldn't defend it either.
     
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    Totally, watch the interview....not just the Dems but the media as well....certainly he put some blame on the President for lowing himself to the Dems behavior...but excellent interview overall
     
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    His ego wont let him. He has been like this his entire life.
     
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    Yes, because other crimes that are worse received much less punishment, lesser crimes should receive less punishment than that.

    Almost sounds like the entire point of the word "justice" or something.

    Oh I am defending it.

    I'm not surprised you don't see the difference between giving your average rapist 4 years, a terrorist who wants to kill as many people as possible being rewarded, and a guy who lied about a non crime getting 9+ years.
     
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    I'm stunned... If they'll fire a guy's BROTHER for his brother's actions, I didn't think there was any level of outrage this administration couldn't and wouldn't manufacture..

    From what i understand McCabe did, it was possibly a legit reason for being fired from the FBI, but not a legal issue... didn't sound like any classified information was leaked.

    But I never really dug super heavily into it either... I'm sure some wingers will be on here shortly telling us how Andy McCabe is Satan...
     
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    LOL... I see it's up to 9+ years now... When it gets to 15, I'm going to sell...
     
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    Lol one criticism means he cannot be in the tank for Twump. This is hilarious.
     
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    I'm glad you're focusing on the important part of what I said.

    Maybe you'll get lucky and find yourself facing such charges.

    I doubt you'll be as glib if that happens to you.
     
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    Which is it does twump want his staff to serve at his pleasure or wipe his hands from it?
     
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    Not like you really care about degradation. You voted for twump who breaks the law on national television by misrepresenting official weather maps. Nobody should take trump supporters seriously ever again.
     
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    I'm not, law enforcement regularly protects their own.
     
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    I've already said 3-4 times on here that 9 years would have been too high for the crimes proven.

    My primary points are:

    - 7-9 is clearly within the legal sentencing guidelines
    - It was very poor optics for the DOJ reversal to come after Trumps tweet, connected or not, but I understand the DOJ doesn't control him (nobody does, including himself)
    - No sentence, even up to the 9 years, is probably a 'death sentence' for a 67 year old (in a country club prison)
    - Stone should get more time than Cohen, on crimes, remorse, AND post arrest actions, including essentially threatening his judge.
    - I'd go just short of 5 myself...
     
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    yup Trump is still a loudmouthed idiot..

    for a better analysis than CNN

     
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    not at all, it should be the other around. crimes by the President's opponents should be enforced and punished harsher.

    the President was elected by the people for the people, his friends deserve leniency.

    President Trump is merciful, but in the future He may not be as lenient


    https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/leniency
     
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    Alot here to unload and unpack. So let's get to it:

    -Maybe not twitter, but I can bet there have been times where a boss has said "Man, that Peter guy was REALLY awful at lifting the inventory and it was breaking. I had no choice but to fire him." Sure, Peter didn't hear it but the criticism was made to somebody else in conversation.

    I don't think the labor board would get involved in a boss's criticism of his former employee. Why do we have yelp? So yeah, working for someone(in any field) is tricky business. Got to negotiate, sometimes lap up the boss, etc. All the grimy stuff. It doesn't just apply to Trump(though I will confess that it applies to him more then it does other people.)

    -As far as the whole Subpoena thing, I concur with Trump's defense team on the merits of the argument that the House did not follow its normal procedure and so because of that, the subpoena's were invalid. And even when they corrected it, according to Sekulow they didn't retroactively apply the subpoena's(which I thought was the whole point.) and we both know they didn't issue new ones.

    But even so, Vindman testifying in of itself is not the issue. The issue is that he A: Went above his chain of command and then B: Leaked classified information to the Washington Post. And an aside C: We learned just how cozy he is with the Ukrainian government. I mean, it's not like he'd be the first US person, since a lot of us share heritage with at least one other foreign country but the difference is that when offered such an opportunity, we'd turn it down. Vindman was all to eager and giddy to hear it.

    So patriot and hero, this guy is not. If he wants to fancy himself as such, that's his choice.

    -Trump's letting them know that he's the CEO of the US, and yes if you cross business lines there would normally be consequences. As it should be, by the way. We don't elect the "Official Channels.", we elect the representatives, senators and the President whom we ASSUME to be running the operations. Apparently not. Apparently the "Official Channels" run things.

    That is more corrosive than anything Trump's done. In fact, that's the exact corrosive element that spurned the 'necessity' of Crossfire Hurricane: A foreign agent(if true) running our government, would be a really big deal. Twice, the NSC is now caught to be involved in high level decision making and crucial testimony.(First being JFK) The NSC has now become a national problem.

    The #resistance has not been a productive part of the American Community, it's been the most destructive civil element since the civil war. Disagree on issues yes, but the #resistance is majorly responsible for the breakdown of the Trump Administration which serves no one.

    Finally, the Stone thing: He will be sentenced. He has not escaped justice(or anything like that), let's put this whole thing in it's proper prospective. A 75 year old first time non-offender serving 7-9 years in prison would be excessive. The DOJ said the original sentence was manipulated by said prosecutors. The same things are happening in the Flynn case. If you want to talk about political vendetta, Crossfire Hurricane was nothing but a vendetta.

    For the law to retain its dignity in America, it must be neutral. The law is not neutral if it has a vendetta.
     
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    Trump and barr are deep state swamp dwellers
     
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    He's probably leaving it up to Durham.
     
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    He was fired for lying to the FBI, the same as Flynn was accused of.
     
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    That's right on the border of silliness...

    Nope, I was wrong... fully moved into silliness...
     
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    And before Obama passed DACA, he said he had no authority to do it, he said he wasn't a king. Guess he changed his mind.
     
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    Like the MSM does to Democrats.
     

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