Woman punches man in Broadway bar over MAGA-style birthday hat

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  1. TheImmortal

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    So just to clarify, would you excuse someone’s actions if they beat up a person wearing a Malcolm X or Che Guevara shirt in such divisive times as today?
     
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    I'm not sure if I'm ready to put the maga hat in the exact same category as the white hood yet.

    When the white hood came out for use, it was almost always directly tied to violence. I know there were KKK 'picnics' and 'meetings' where there was none, but in general

    The hat can be worn anywhere, since your face is exposed, and isn't directly tied to violence.

    But it's mostly the same category of people wearing it and generally for the same reason...

    Fortunately, it's so hideous and will never be worn as a true fashion item, so there is really only one reason to be wearing it, isn't there?

    I dont recall ever seeing a maga hat live, in my neighborhood or community.. and we still have Trump supporters based on 2016 local vote counts, so it's possible to do one without the other.
     
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    I wouldn't consider those clothing items and different from the maga hat.

    Not sure what you mean by excuse. But I would still consider wearing them in a politically hot public area foolish and stupid. I wouldn't go attacking them for it though.
     
  4. FatBack

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    You should look up the word "don't" in a dictionary. It's more than a few of you lefties, excusing it.
     
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    I dont give a damn that some flake might get triggered by a hat. It's not my problem adults cant handle their feelings and emotions in a mature manner.
     
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    No, trump is responsible for encouraging hundreds of hate crimes against Americans.
     
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  8. Tim15856

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    And yet you can't link to these hundreds of hate crimes. Is this opposite day?
     
  9. Mrs. SEAL

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    You sure about that? For your viewing pleasure, may I present the party of tolerance:



     
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    Lol...You want to play duelling videos of intolerance, eh? Is that because you can’t defend trump?
     
  11. Mrs. SEAL

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    Are you diverting because you can't defend your own party calling for violence?
     
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    1) Which side of what? What does that even mean? This is about tolerance - you either practice it, or you don't. You accept that in a democracy we're exposed to all kinds of beliefs and preferences, or admit you don't care for democracy because it demands tolerance.

    2) I don't see that at all. I see one side becoming increasingly intolerant, while the other has remained more or less the same.

    3) How can we 'fix' it? Are you saying we should commit these fruitloops to institutions or something? How do you propose we 'fix' the unhinged violent intolerants? As for WHY they do what they do .. the answer is going to be one of the standard aetiologies involved in personal dysfunction/disorder. There is nothing exotic or unusual about it. Seeing more of it is just the result of increased enabling, and ideological interference in the DSM (yes, I'm serious on that last).

    4) You aren't powerless. You can choose never to be a violent intolerant, and you can vote.

    5) I'm sure no one thinks you're a monster, but they can't really ignore the fact that you've repeatedly suggested that political insignia is responsible for the violence of others. That's pretty darned unpleasant. As for 'your people' being in power .. what is it that you think will happen then? Are you saying that those who can't deal peaceably with not being in power, are going to be cured of their mental health issues? And why do you think everyone 'attacking' you is conservative?
     
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    Forget what? It's not the Right who've been behaving like crazed bigots.
     
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    It's not like we didn't know there was fundie ideology lurking all along, but fun to see it openly stated.
     
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    Great idea. Replace that nasty democracy with totalitarianism so we never have to experience corruption again. Genius!
     
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    And this settlement is why I will do everything legally in my power to make sure people like you will never have any power.

    See you at the voting booth.
     
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    That doesn't seem very "scrupulous" of one that has been bragging of their scruples...*tisk* *tisk*

    Quite an overreaction as nobody called you out as a monster or anything of that nature. Sounds like someone is taking opposing points of view, personally.

    Also for one who doesn't like to draw attention to themselves, doing a great job so far especially if you act out on that statement...

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    Yeah, exactly.... we should replace our totalitarian president and ag.... thtat seems obvious
     
  19. crank

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    Who is exacerbating that division? Is it the people doing no more than they've always done .. or the people who lost their ****ing minds when an orange man made utter fools out of 'em?

    Think before answering, and consider that you're talking to a lifelong Lefty who has zero reason to want our side to be at fault.
     
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    So, doing things that others think is bad is perfect okay as long as YOU don't think it's bad and/or you don't think you are as bad as the other side?
     
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    You can't be serious. Are you actually suggesting that items of clothing 'incite' violence?
     
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    Do you know what a totalitarian government even is? I am guessing not....
     
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    What do you mean by 'doing things'? And what does 'the other side' mean in this context? I don't give a flying **** what people have on their hats, or their t shirts, or tattooed on their neck. It's their journey, not mine.
     
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    Lets pretend it's one that ignores legitimate prosecution, and makes up prosecution about political enemies? how's that sound?
     
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    Good for you! I'll be there. If I wear a MAGA hat, I'll bring some play dough and hot coco and an emotional support dog for the fragile types.
     
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