Joe Biden: illegal immigration is “a gift” to the U.S.

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  1. Pred

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    And that is what Lefitsts will NEVER answer to. It’s how Reagan was screwed over. He offered amnesty and Democrat spat in his face afterwards. They would do it again. I’d potentially support one time amnesty but every person wouod have to pay fines for all the services they’ve illegally used over the years and our laws from that day forward regarding immigration would have to be completely redone. We would need a way to prevent people from flooding the border again.
     
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    There's no way to prevent people from flooding the borders away. People will always seek to improve their lot, and who can blame them. So they will come, given the opportunity.

    Teh WALL is the answer, together with improving and then enforcing the immigration law. Is the only way.
     
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    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    Gotcha so you’re against population growth, not illegal immigration.
     
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    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    You seem to be saying theyre an important part of the labor pool.
     
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    We need to stop these people from improving their lot! How dare they!
     
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    I know of 100mln honest, hardworking Nigerians who would love nothing more than to come here and make America great again, while reliably voting for the Democrats. Wanna let them come?
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    From your LIberal Progressive Democrat's point of view... is that what I'm saying?
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why would anyone support illegal immigration is so out of wack!
     
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    TheGreatSatan Banned

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    They support it because they aim to bankrupt America. They want to flood America with needy homeless foreign nationals and force Americans to pay them gifts and compete with them for resources meant for Americans.

    The neo-communist goal is to lower the living standards of Americans. Every policy they support is aimed at bringing about the post America world they dream of.
     
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    Why not let the whole world in who deserve better lives? What could go wrong:) Do you believe there should be no limitations?
     
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    Like we did for most of our history?
     
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    You actually think the world is the same now as it was during colonial times? Cmon. You can do better than that. You understand that if you couldn’t support yourself you died “for most of our history.” No free healthcare. No Welfare. Want to go back? I await your well formulated and rational response.
     
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    So you only like mass immigration if many of them will die? That’s pretty morbid.
     
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    Why avoid my very simple question? Can’t answer it? And I don’t approve or would like any mass immigration because we should NEVER accept large numbers of anyone for any reason. And yes that means natural disasters as well. We can’t support the population of an entire country unless they’re bribing their money with them. It would lead to our destruction otherwise.
     
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    That would be stupid to say the least. What a slap in the face to all the immigrants who come here and follow the rules to become citizens. Let's just let anyone who came here illegally get front of the line privileges and encourage more crime. I always suspected you were in favor of open borders.
     
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    It supports his open border policies he wants passed.
     
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    Democrats/Progressives have always wanted those votes and a new class to rule over. It helps them pull power and money from the people and into their own sphere. Straight out of the Stalin playbook.
     
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    What about people like Melania Trump who come here and Disgrace the American Flag (and Crap all over America, and Crap all over Law-Abiding Immigrants who follow the rules) by gaming the system?

    Though Melania did not enter the U.S. illegally, Associated Press claimed that she violated immigration law. The independent media outlet stated that the FLOTUS desecrated her tourist visa when she started "working for pay" in America. It said that B-visas are given to temporary business visitors, who are in the country for their business activities but they are not allowed to be employed.

    AP, also, opened the possibility that Melania intentionally violated her visa and lied about her exact intentions to work while in America. “That’s not just an immigration violation but an outright federal crime,” the publication said. Melania has yet to comment on the said report.


    https://www.ibtimes.com/melania-tru...ould-have-committed-visa-fraud-helped-2898601

    So, if Trumpists are so worried about "Immigration Fraud", then why have they been giving Melania a free pass?
    __________

    Now back to Biden, and the OP:

    The RW really seems to be getting a lot of mileage out of this Ramos Interview.

    Multiple threads and counting.

    Anybody who doesn't like it (whether it be Latino Voters in Nevada, or anybody else) is free not to vote for him

    ^Problem solved.:salute:
     
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    Disgrace the American flag? What a bunch of partisan nonsense and slander.

    Back to Biden, glad his run for President is almost over. Maybe he and his coke snorting son can work out another plan to get rich off of his political ties.
     
  20. The Mello Guy

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    There is no line. Amnesty doesn’t stop us from letting in more people.
     
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    Joe Biden is an idiot, and you can quote me on that.
     
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    Good lord. What are you even talking about?
     
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    Exsactly, Joe Biden also says Democrats respect no borders. Saying you want amnesty is another way of saying you're for open borders.
     
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    This is why I keep trying to tell folks that we need to stop kicking the can down the road on comprehensive immigration reform and compromise so that we can finally put this issue behind us. Unfortunatley though, not many folks seem interested in that. For some its all about playing the blame-game, pointing fingers, and trying to get 100% of what they want without even considering the possibility of making concessions. Of course... that sort of thinking is exactly why nothing ever gets done on this issue.

    How about you though? Are you open to compromise on immigration?
    If so, what are your thoughts on the following?
    Is a compromise proposal we came up with here at political forum a while ago following a Ranked Vote.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...hensive-immigration-reform-compromise.550626/
    -Meta
     
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    Seeing as how the word 'history' has been mentioned this post puts me in mind of the Aboriginal North Americans when mainly white Europeans invaded. They could support themselves, but died anyway mainly at the hands of white Europeans.
    I would hazard a guess that many decedents of Aboriginal North Americans wouldn't mind 'going back'
     

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