Debt Cities

Yep. And here we have a whole political party that wants to tamp down education and R&D thinking they will stop the rest of the world from moving forward.
Instead of fighting it we should embrace it and make sure we lead the way.
If we don't wise up China is going to eat our lunch - and most of dinner.

 

You're flat wrong in putting this problem through the lens of the culture wars. We've had a bipartisan screw job on workers for forty years.


(Trump and Obama haven't solved the problem the above graph nicely illustrates, so don't waste your time spouting Obama or Trumper propaganda.)

Younger people are saving more than in the past.

Your version of reality begins with a faulty premise about younger Americans. Perhaps you're projecting from watching to much TV pandering to older folks.

Thanks to changes in bankruptcy laws passed by Republicans and Dubya Bush in 2005 when they controlled Congress, it's less likely creditors will offer debt relief.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bankruptcy_Abuse_Prevention_and_Consumer_Protection_Act

Sounds like you're looking after Numero Uno. Liquidating debt, whether done by creditors or government, is going to cost thee and me.

 

To be perfectly honest that was a jab at Oregon, particularly the parts of the Portland metro are where expand they built on prime agg land. I'm actually opposed to all new taxes.

 

Same is true of the town I live in and most others in the Midwest. As for taxes the law of diminishing returns is applicable.

 

Do you have children who are now in their thirties?

 

Been to Detroit? How about Gary Indiana? Davenport Iowa?Lansing Michigan? Massive shitholes, all Democrat country.

 

Sounds like you're looking after Numero Uno. Liquidating debt, whether done by creditors or government, is going to cost thee and me.[/QUOTE] I just don't believe in wealth redistribution in any form.

 

I have a 40+ daughter who leads a division in a major bank that handles loans of $25m and up.

 

You don't seem to object to redistributing wealth upward, or passing laws that make it difficult for workers to form unions.

 

Not Davenport.

There is a fairly straightforward explanation as to why depressed areas formerly doing well are often dominated by Democrats. The wealth generated by an economic activity --the auto industry, for example--is shared with workers when unions force employers to raise wages. When the economic activity no longer supports the wages and profits as before, we have organized workers unwilling to surrender hard won advantages.

 

I remember watching the documentary about the people living in their cars in California. How they tried to Garner sympathy for them. I have no sympathy. They make more money than I do. They're just too stupid to leave California or at least that area. Boo-hooing because you can't afford a $4,500 a month apartment and you're too stupid to go somewhere else where you can afford rent is not something I feel sorry for. People should stop feeling sorry for them. they've been told what they're doing is right and that they have no control over their situation. I have a brand new car your making payments on it, they just can't afford the way overpriced housing.

It makes me wonder if they did work enough to afford this way overpriced housing would they pay for it and complain?

Do these people not understand supply and demand?

And then you have a lot of idiots going to school on government loans to study the most moronic **** that they will never find a career doing.

Stupidity needs to hurt, that's how it stops.

 

A lack of farm land is NOT our problem we have several large states with virtually no population.

 

We have two just in our little valley. We used to have a small herd of about 16 deer. Now we are lucky to see four deer together a couple once a week. We haven't seen moose at all this winter. We have two mountain lions in our little valley and I see them on a regular basis. Now it looks like we have wolf sighting lately. Just what we need., Wolves, coyotes and mountain lions.

 

I see mountain lions on a regular basis at our place.

 

Black bear aren't know for killing a lot of deer.

"They are able to kill adult deer and other hoofed wildlife but most commonly are only able to kill deer, elk, moose, and other hoofed animals when the prey are very young."
https://www.nwf.org/Educational-Resources/Wildlife-Guide/Mammals/Black-Bear

 

And short growing seasons

 

Thats cause 1/2 of californians are illegal aliens

 

Anger? I rather like the current distribution

As a self employed stone mason, how will that affect me. Are machines going to take my job? As it is now, there are many, many more people in my market who will do surgery than there are people who do what I do. A good stone mason will cost you about $125/Hr. How are the things you cite above going to affect guys like us?

 

Short term? Your job? No. I wouldn't bet on a long career for a young person starting out.

Think about aspects of your job that could be done by someone with limited experience--jobs you have helpers do now. That could be automated. Then my sister and brother-in-law had a house built with a stone wall in the center of the living area as part of an energy efficient design. The mason built a true work of art that everyone agrees is beautiful. Maybe some time down the road a computer can replace that, too, but it's a ways off.

Then we have radiologists reading CT scans... we already have computers catching changes humans miss.

What are we going to do about or with millions of workers replaced by computers? The old rules we hold dear about people earning their way with work will no longer apply. What then?

 

A claim so obviously wrong it raises questions about you trolling.

 

It seems to me, from the things you're citing, that the job losses are going to be among relatively high tech and relatively high repetitive jobs. It's actually easier to replace a surgeon, a pathologist or a long-haul trucker, than it is to replace a stone mason, and there's a hell of a lot more incentive to do so.

 

Exactly. Well said.

I taught school. There's no machine yet that can walk into a classroom and motivate teenagers to get an education. Some of my job can be handed off to the like of the Khan Academy--and perhaps should be--but I know there's still a need for teachers.

 

A brand new occupation to get trained in today would be repairing ELECTRIC automobiles our current auto mechanics only work on internal combustion engines.

 

As a stone mason, I can't relate to acquiring skills that are only of value for a few years before becoming obsolete.
My tech set has been around almost as long as agriculture, animal husbandry and prostitution.

 

The corporate world got their tax cuts from Dirty Donald.....Jeff Bezos just paid more for his new house than his AMAZON paid in Federal tax last year.