UK: Hospitals to Deny Care to “Racist” or “Homophobic” Patients

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  1. Montegriffo

    Montegriffo Well-Known Member

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    You don't think that the NHS has a responsibility to protect its employees?
     
  2. Montegriffo

    Montegriffo Well-Known Member

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    Do try to stick to the subject.
    Also, don't try to label me as far left just because I think employees have the right to be protected from harassment, bullying and descrimination.
     
  3. guavaball

    guavaball Well-Known Member

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    I am. We are talking about refusing care due to your feelings about someone.

    Don't worry, I knew you couldn't answer the question.

    LOL Let's see you attack our first lady for her modeling career, attack trump for posing with non American cars, a massive EU supporter, hate Brexit, believe in the religion of climate change and a vegan.

    You couldn't fit the category more if you tried.

    But I do love it when you guys pretend to be something you aren't when its so easy to look up your post history and expose it :)


    And on the subject its the idea that someone's feelings can dictate treatment is beyond draconian but with your political beliefs I'm not surprised you don't see the problem.
     
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  4. Montegriffo

    Montegriffo Well-Known Member

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    The right of the NHS to protect its employees from harassment, bullying and discrimination has nothing to do with my feelings.
    Many conservatives and centrists oppose Brexit, climate change is not a religion and I'm not a vegan. Oh, and I attacked Trump's MAGA credentials due to his personal car collection having more foreign vehicles in it than American ones.
    None of that makes me a ''hard leftist''. Try searching my posts a bit further back and see what I write about Jeremy Corbyn.
     
  5. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    Who is being discriminated against by the new NHS rules?
     
  6. Creasy Tvedt

    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

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    And therein lies the problem. Healthcare services get nationalized, and now it's the government's job to step in every time any and every worker gets their feelings hurt, and then every little workplace squabble gets mired in a swamp of federal bureaucracy.

    How about NO? NO, it shouldn't be the government's job to be the hurt feelings police, because that's exactly why socialized medicine is a terrible idea.

    Let the local authorities and labor boards handle that piddling crap, and leave the feds out of it.
     
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  7. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sorry then, must have been the other poster obsessed with child rape and gay people.

    It is literally the topic, discrimination based on irrelevant characteristics.
     
  8. FreshAir

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    they refused the doctor, the doctor did not refuse them.....

    that said, I see no issue with trying to honor a request for a same gender doctor for private exams such as that, may mean she has to come back when one is available, that is her choice
     
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  9. Montegriffo

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    We're not talking about hurt feelings. This is about bullying, harassment and discrimination.
     
  10. Creasy Tvedt

    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

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    No, it's about some government bureaucrat's interpretation of what constitutes bullying, harassment, and discrimination.
     
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  11. guavaball

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    Of course it does since every single one of those are based on what a person feels is harassment bullying and discrimination.

    Dude I list listed your far left positions. Do you really want me to quote you directly on each of those points? You only pointed to one of them claiming there are some on the right who hate Brexit.

    I see you didn't deny any of them.

    Now please, stop pretending you aren't exactly what your quotes and positions tell us you are.
     
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  12. guavaball

    guavaball Well-Known Member

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    Exactly right. Its amazing what the far left tries to get away with.
     
  13. guavaball

    guavaball Well-Known Member

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    LOL Don't worry I knew you couldn't just admit your massive mistake and move on without fabricating another claim without evidence.

    Which is your opinion not a fact proving my point. Thanks for playing.
     
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    guavaball Well-Known Member

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    What are you talking about? You really don't get it do you? Its how they feel not the facts that drive this lunacy. Just because some moron feels like someone is a racist does not make that person a racist. Or a bigot, homophobe or any other worthless far left talking points. Why can't you get this?

    Which many on your side view as transphobic which under this draconian law would allow them to refuse care. Cant you see the danger in that?
     
  15. Montegriffo

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    Nope. It's about whether an NHS employee is being bullied, harassed or discriminated against.
     
  16. guavaball

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    No its not. Its about how they feel they are. Something completely subjective which you for some reason cannot admit.
     
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    People that they disagree with.
     
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  18. Montegriffo

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    Amazing how many people wish to jump to the defence of people bullying, harassing and discriminating against NHL employees.
    I'm out, life's too short to waste on anyone who thinks this type of behaviour is OK.
     
  19. guavaball

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    What's more amazing is the wholesale acceptance of letting someone suffer without medical care because someone else feels the patient's opinion or personality can be translated to be bullying harassing or discriminating against them with the accuser only answerable to themselves while someone suffers without care.
     
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  20. crank

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    "Subtle" being code for: very poorly defined and therefore wide open to abuse.
     
  21. crank

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    Imma go with Indian/Pakistani/Nigerian/Zimbabwean are doctors, and Filipinos are nurses. At least that's how it goes here :p
     
  22. crank

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    The problem isn't allowing/not allowing discrimination. The problem is what we now regard as discrimination.

    We peaked when it was limited to legal or institutional discrimination ('whites only' schools etc). It's not possible to take it beyond that without then discriminating in response. If you include 'feelings', you're compelled to favour one opionion on what constitutes unkindness, and THAT in itself is horribly discriminatory.
     
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    Jesus H Christ.

    More more more .. always wanting more. Wrecking the planet to retain Ivory Tower delights isn't enough .. now we must have our feelings carefully protected, too. **** the cost to the rest of the world .. First Worlders need to be unoffended.
     
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    Bodily, and from internal bullying, yes. From 'words' delivered by members of the public? No, of course not.
     
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    Bingo!
     

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