Exclusive: Ahead of 2020 election, a 'Blue Wave' is rising in the cities, polling analysis shows

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  1. Rugglestx

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    How is he going to get rid of it?

    Not that that horrid night will happen BTW :)
     
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    Why in heavens name is it important to pass trivial legislation?
     
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    Majority vote gets rid of it.
     
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    It's not. I said the filibuster makes if impossible to get anything NON-TRIVIAL (i.e., important) out of the Senate without 60 votes. This is true. Anything that's even slightly partisan will be filibustered by some extremist. That kind of use of the filibuster is unprecedented.
     
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    delete
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's how the Senate voted come into play. The system is fine and working as intended...
     
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    It's not surprising that cities vote Democratic. To state the obvious, cities aren't farms. Both rural and large city environments are equally important to our nation. I will respectfully note that pheasant hunting sucks in Manhattan while the art museum in Milbank, SD also sucks.

    They each have their separate needs and desires.
     
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    No, I do not support a national popular vote as it would completely disenfranchise smaller states that are just as valuable to the nation as all other states. But the level of inequality between votes in small states vs large states is way too extreme and exasperated by unconstitutional editing of the process.
     
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    The system is not working as intended. The senate is (I believe) but the House is not.
     
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    I "call out" the R vote on acquittal because several who voted to do so said the House Managers proved their case. If the case is proven, the vote should be guilty. I feel that, like most regular criminal trials, the impeachment should have been 2 separate votes... One to determine guilt or non guilt, and a second for sentence.

    I just don't see Trump "slapping anybody down" because people underestimate his intelligence. He temporarily has the power and the power was achieved by fear, not intelligence...

    Do I need to point out some of the comments by Republicans about this man in 2016 again?
     
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    I've heard about this blue wave before....turned out to be a splash and the GOP gained Senate seats.

    Last night highlighted how the DNC is not ready for prime time
     
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    Um that is how the Senate Impeachment trial is done. With that said, yes, some said they proved their case....they proved what we knew...Trump wanted the new Ukainian Admin to be committed to rooting out corruption. That's not impeachable .
     
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    You know that the Democrats losing 2 seats in the Senate (while having 26 on the chopping block) was one of only several indicators that the 2018 Blue Wave was very, very real.
     
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    You are posing a strawman and you know it. The case being proven by the House was that Trump was explicitly not trying to get the Ukrainian administration to root out corruption.
     
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    Haha losing seats means the wave was real! Haha

    only in dem fantasy land is losing winning
     
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    That was not proven, why can’t you all accept even jury verdicts?
     
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    None of this matters! You have the left voting Dem, the right voting Rep, and the centrists in the middle called Independents that must decide. The latter group could not stomach voting for Hillary Clinton and will not stomach voting for Bernie Sanders even more so. That gives Trump the edge because his base is truly energized to get out the vote! It's a simple, common sense analysis of the current situation. These saber rattlers want you to believe the Dems have a chance. Maybe they do, but...not with Bernie.
     
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    Yes, losing 2 seats when 26 (as compared to 9 from the Republicans) are on the chopping block is a sign that the wave was real.
     
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    You made explicit reference to Republicans saying that the House proved their case. The House's case was to prove that Trump was not seeking to out corruption from Ukraine. You intentionally mis-stated their argument. That's all I wanted to correct.
     
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    Losing is winning is a great motto for the dnc
     
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    They proved what was known. Which isn’t a crime or worthy of removal. If that was their goal..great.

    no Republican stated trump wasn’t intending to root out corruption.
     
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    As I said, the loss of two seats when 26 were on the chopping block is just one of many, many indicators that the Blue Wave of 2018 was real.

    Some other factors included the fact that Democrats flipped 41 seats, the most for the Democrats in a single election since Whitewater, the fact that the House Democrats earned a total of 9.8 million more votes than House Republicans (the single largest margin of victory in US Midterm History), the fact that Democrats flipped ~390 seats at all levels of government, the fact that Democrats flipped 7 Governerships, and gained six State Trifectas (while Republicans lost four).

    I thoroughly encourage you to keep disputing the validity of the Blue Wave from 2018, if you'd like.
     
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    One Republican voted, for the first time in US History, to remove a President from his own Party because he committed an Impeachable Offense worthy of Removal.
     
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    Losing is winning! Dems 2020!!!!
     
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    Losing is winning! That’s what happens when you have for the first time ever a fully partisan house impeachment vote and hearing!!!
     

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