Putin is preparing to elect trump

Were you the one Jimbo? Were you tricked out of voting for Clinton by the Russians? I have not yet personally met anyone who even claims to having been trick out of voting for Clinton by the Russians; have you? Are you that guy Jimbo? Is that where the chip on your shoulder is coming from? Are you that guy? Were you, or someone you know, tricked out of voting for Clinton by the Russians and you're afraid of it happening again?

 

You don't even know what this thread is about? Or just playing d... (some word I can't say)

You're not fooling anybody. The title of this thread is "Putin is preparing to elect Trump"

And I say again: he intervened in our elections in 2016, he is doing it now. And we knew Putin was happy with his lapdog. So why wouldn't he intervene again? And that's exactly what he's doing.

The only thing related to "release of information" was the briefing to Congress which they are required by law to do.

Do you have anything to respond to that? .... No? I didn't think so.....

Other than that...changing the subject because you ran out of arguments is very indicative. Or maybe you're not playing and you really are d.... (ah... the word I can't repeat)

 

But in the last couple of months, Republicans have been telling Democrats that the President actually has unlimited power and cannot be removed for abusing it. Do you think these "children" will show the ... uhmm...."restraint".... that Trump has shown and not abuse the Presidency the next time they win the White House?

 

Really Golem, little hyperbolic don't you think.. They were simply saying that you cant convict people with bullshit hearsay. opinion and conjecture.... I'm sure you wouldn't want to tried in such a ignorant way.. Well, maybe I don't know.. I'm at a point where Leftist are so over the top with desire to see Trump gone I'm not sure it's even healthy anymore! And my personal opinion, I don't even think it's Trump at this point, they are just unhinged that a Democrat isn't sitting in the oval office they are completely mind f$#ked over it!! ¯\_(º¸º)_/¯

 

Psssst . . . now those same officials are admitting that in reality Putin is actually trying his very best to get Bernie Sanders elected. Oooops!

 

Your projection is laughable - as is your claim that Putin has some significant influence over our electoral process .. as is your claim that the voter knowing the truth about a candidate prior to the election harmed our electoral process.

Now you are making the even more absurd claim that "Russiagate" had nothing to do with the WIki information that was released.

You are lost and confused.

 

I know many peiple that bought the Russian lies they read on Facebook....So...does Putin pay you by the word? See ya....I IGNORE RUSKIES....

 

Oh... you're one of those who keeps repeating the same nonsense

Here, this time you might want to actually read it. I doubt you've come up with a sensible response since then

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-to-elect-trump.568460/page-3#post-1071451328

I never said that knowing prior to the election the truth about Trump and his campaign colluding with Russia, in and of itself, was what harmed our elections. What harmed it was the fact that laws were broken.

Of course it did! it's what it was about. How the Trump campaign colluded with Russia and wikileaks to intervene in our elections. As the Mueller Report demonstrated.

BTW, the fact that you call wikileaks "wiki" shows that you are completely clueless about this matter. So no use wasting much time with you.

 

Well, that’s enlightening. You need more intelligent friends...

 

Obviously, Trump wants another 4 years for his Puppet:

 

I don't even know any one can actually remember seeing a Russian add on face book.

 

One would at this point have to be totally incapable of intellectual independence to believe either claim at this point.

 

Your posts have turned into gibberish. I don't mind you accusing me of "the same nonsense". What I mind is you not bothering to state what that nonsense is ? am I supposed to read your mind .. guess ?

This is not coherent thought - never mind qualifying as an argument. You are engaged in thought avoidance.

Then you link to a comment from another post .. no relation to the conversation at hand - a completely unrelated thought that has already been coverd.

"What nonsense! This is like justifying a murder by saying that the ability of an individual murderer to kill people is minuscule compared to the mafia"

What was wrong with my previous response ? - Your analogy is flawed... I told you that I did not justify anything. what part of that did you not understand ? - I then followed with - The Hack was Illegal

What does this have to do with Trump ? What does this have to do with the release of the information through wiki ? These are separate issues.

You want to say Russia influenced the election - I completely agree - and explained why. So why are you accusing me of doing otherwise ? This above is incoherent blather coupled with projection and strawman fallacy.

What is your problem with my claim ? That the ability of Putin to influence our electoral process is small relative to other forces.

 

You were, weren't you? You were tricked by the Russians to vote against Hillary, and you're afraid they're going to do it to you again.

Well, it took over three years, but I have finally made contact with someone who, at least claims, was tricked out of voting for Hillary by the Russians.

 

Russia is looking to help Trump win in 2020.

This post paid for by Michael Bloomberg for President Inc.

 

I think you are confusing Putin with Netanyahu as to whose pocket the US is in. Do you know what AIPAC is? Do you want to know?

 

AIPAC is a pro-Israel lobbying group.

They're like the Council on American-Islamic Relations, but without the ties to terrorist groups.

 

You really don't understand it, huh? Either you haven't been following the impeachment procedures very closely, or you have been following them on wingnut media. Which is about the same thing.

Here. This is the nonsense...

The impact that Putin had on the electoral process is as irrelevant to this discussion (which is about how he plans to do it again, to Trump's obvious joy) as the impact a frustrated bank robbery had on a bank's finances.

And conceptually, there is only one difference between the two: the impact of the frustrated bank robbery is quantifiable (cost of a broken lock, or firing an inattentive guard, ...). Putin's impact is not quantifiable. But it impacts the cost of every county that now has to take extra precautions, of political parties that have to spend more in I.T. security, of law enforcement and intelligence agencies that had to investigate it... and many other similar. But the greatest impact is exactly on what Putin is seeking to impact: the loss of confidence on our electoral system. The loss of confidence in the legitimacy of our President which, tn all honesty, must be marked with an asterisk (President*)

So, there you go. This is something obvious to anybody who has followed the impeachment procedures. And what the Mueller Report shows. As you obviously have not.

Now... as far as the actual topic of this thread: Putin is preparing to do this again. Trump is happy that he is. And I have no choice but to question the patriotism of any so-called "American" who, regardless of their political affiliation, is not up in arms about a direct attack on us. They simply do not deserve to be regarded as Americans. And I would rather use that term to describe those great Americans, who at risk of their life come to this country, even risking to enter with no documents, for the sake of giving their family a future. Those are great Americans and deserve to be in this country. The others, though not quite "traitors", as some have labeled them, they don't deserve to be here living under our Constitution. We have no choice but to tolerate them

 

I did not say Putin did not have an impact - in fact I have claimed that the reverse is true. So you are building a big strawman.

Putin lucked out in 2016 - the release of the info on Hillary's/DNC dirty deeds with respect to Sanders had an impact. While the Sanders voters likely did not vote Red in droves - many probably just stayed home.

Russia and the US hack into other nations all the time (as do many other nations) - it is the new "Spying" - so crying about hacking is laughable when referring to nation states - its pot calling kettle black on steroids.

The issue in this case is that information from the hack was released to the public - information that was damaging to one of the candidates.

And while hacking is bad - the release of the information from the hack was Good !

 

WTF?

I have written so many times the word "irrelevant" in this discussion that the letters on my keyboard are starting to fade
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Do you know what "irrelevant" means"? It does not mean that you claimed it had no impact, it does not mean it's part of my argument.

According to my Funk and Wagnalls, the technical definition of "irrelevant" is "Who the f**k cares?"

It makes absolutely zero difference in respect to this thread. Got it now, or do you want me to explain it in French?

Putin intervened in 2016 because he wanted to elect Donald Trump. Successful or not, he likes Trump as President because we know will help him get elected in 2020. Trump has said that the candidate he would prefer is Sanders. He has no idea what he's getting himself into, but Putin now wants to boost Sanders' campaign.

Because we got to learn that Hillary was operating a prostitution ring out of a Pizza place, right?

Pathetic!

 

And u know he will cheat....unfortunately....he now has the entered federal apparatus to pervert....He has set up his very own Mafia in DC...

 

Good grief. So Putin is going to spend another 150 million in a campaign in which the two sides together will close to 5 billion dollars at a minimum and you honestly much more effective than some guy humming "When the Saints Go Marching In" in the back row at a heavy metal concert?

 

Really? That I didn't know.

So there you go.... Anybody who is not enraged at how Putin stomps on our Constitution and laws to favor his lap poodle cannot call themselves a patriot.

 

The above post is beyond Pathetic - and once again you are projecting.

In the previous post you accused me of claiming that Putin did not influence the election. When I say that your claim is wrong - and that I had claimed the contrary - and explained how he intervened - you eyes roll back into your head and you twirl around screaming "irrelevant who the fk cares" - and engage in demonization fallacy up the yang - never even bothering to state what you think is irrelevant.

Mindless gibberish on steroids

After raging about how Putin intervening in 2016 is "Irrelevant" you then go on to talk about Putin intervening in the election.

Priceless

 

How can anyone be enraged at a myth?