Bloomberg declares Trump the 'winner' of the Democratic debate

bloomberg isnt amazon, you are deflecting with every single post. try harder.

or just try, period.

ps, redhats. that's funny.

seriously, when will the lefties learn that they are walking, talking recruiters for the gop with this nonsense?

 

omg that's a hilarious reply!

 

Anyone that thinks red hats is a recruiting tool are likely already red hats...

 

let me be more clear, its posts complaining about hats that are the recruiting tool, because adults with common sense don't get offended by hats, bumper stickers or other similar things.

Adults with common sense DO get offended by people that get all worked up over hats, so those angry democrats are recruiting for the GOP and doing a dam good job of it, speaking on behalf of the GOP, its much appreciated.

 

Ah, you mistake me identifying trumpets as red hats is me complaining about them — I am not. I think they should give them out at every event and rally — every militant trump supporter should wear them proudly, they are much easier to identify.

 

easier because they aren't wearing masks?

FWIW, it appears that you pretty much complain about everything and anything related to the GOP or Trump, I can't imagine how slow the hours must trickle by in an average day when full of such bitterness and hatred.

Perhaps when you are older and wiser you will learn to grasp the concept that everything isn't going to go the way you hoped and that there are no participation trophy's in adult life. Its a tough lesson I know but I assure you, if you open up your heart and release all the rage, things will get better.

My candidate took 3rd place in 2016, I got over that in about 30 minutes, it was easy as pie.

I've always been puzzled why it takes others so dam long, is it really just the embarrassment of making such bold predictions of a landslide victory and mocking the opponent's supporters only to find egg on their face?

 

Easy to do while red hats are applauding the corruption of every institution in the US all the way down to the national weather service... Since you mostly complain about people “complaining” that makes it even more pathetic. Life so dull you have to whine about others discussing politics on a political form — interesting lifestyle.

I have no rage, I have largely given up shortly after Obama’s second election — thankfully I have an exit plan.

Yet you are still here whining...
Mine took first and was regretted almost immediately

No clue, feel free to whine to ask one of them.

 

More like a little better. The economy grew at a mean 1.8% for all 8 years of Obama.

 

so, to be clear. you voted for trump, hes doing what he campaigned for and acting exactly like he did during the campaign, and ow you regret your decision?

wow.

I didnt vote for him exactly because he was a loud mouth pain in the ass, I regret it because it turns out it doesnt bother me as much as I thought it would.

weird world. yet only one of us with regrets seems unhappy, and it ain't me.

 

Is he addressing the debt in a meaningful way? No
Is he reducing government corruption? No
Is he uniting the nation? No
Is he bringing back world respect? No
Is he addressing healthcare? No
Is he transparent? No
Is he implementing domestic immigration policy? No
Growth of 6%? No
Bringing back manufacturing on a large scale? No

I mean he can’t even keep his pledge to stop golfing or releasing his tax returns. Much less the above. I don’t hate everything he is doing but overall — the damage that is being done.. not worth it.

Just because you believe he is doing what he campaigned for doesn’t make it true, and I thought liberals were the ones that ran off emotions....

 

you voted for him because you expected those things to happen?

that must put you in quite a pickle for 2020, is Bloomberg the answer?

 

I would like to!

Hey, how about Trump's tax return, you know, the tax return that every other modern presidential candidate has published except for him while campaigning?

Yeah, we know, I know... No one can understand it except for Trump himself, although his math make chicken playing TicTacToe seem smart.

 

But much better than that if Obama's numbers were removed of the year and a half of the Republican meltdown until Obama could rescue America.

What is ironic is Trump and the Republicans creating massive new debt to make the Republican Wealth Machine, which included cutting essential services like medical care, massive rise of drug costs, and dismantling essential services for human care like the CDC, the National Institute of Health, and various support for care.

Ah, who cares! China will be happy to sell us everything we need once their crisis is settled down, so party on, billionaires! Ignore your plunging stock market, layoffs, and debt!

The Republicans are BAAAACK!!! Bigger and broker than ever! We have less than two months to enjoy it all before our Trump gets his ignorance into American's fan!

 

I see you are counting the negative growth during the financial crisis that Obama inherited from Bush. Trump inherited a healthy economy from Obama.

 

That's pretty cute, given Trump's lie about there being no deficit after his "eight" year term. He has taken it to record levels.

 

check Bloomberg's, it's available, then someone can convince me that the govt would prefer to collect 1 forklift operators return, or his.

if I'm the us treasury, I know who's return I want.

 

Good luck with that CYA in November.

 

1.8% mean growth across all 8 years is healthy?

 

I don’t like any of them tbh. Give me a candidate that does the above and I will vote for them

 

FWIW, so would I, but i'm not seeing what I want in any out there, but there are some that are at least calm and rational when they speak but I find it unlikely that they will end up with the democratic nomination.

FWIW, I'm no Trump fanboy, but I do believe he's done more to help me than previous presidents have, I firmly believe in an america first platform,I realize that its a selfish stance, but hey, i'm American so a potus that puts what is best for Americans first is a necessary and positive thing. I don't like his lack of candor, but that was well known while Trump was campaigning, his off the cuff remarks make me grimace and shake my head far too often and still do to this day.

To elaborate:
Campaign promises, I've never had faith in any of the candidates promises I accept that there will be complete failures in many areas because of the nature of congress and the division within it not allowing reasonable compromise.

Congress, and more importantly congressional leadership has failed me by not being able to overcome gridlock and obstruction, but in some ways I find that to be a positive thing because I don't honestly believe there are that many things that NEED fixing, so gridlock can be a good thing. With that said, blind partisanship still is very much a net negative, my opinion is that a 3rd party with strength and negotiating power would be a net positive overall, but the powers that be will do anything and everything to stop that from happening.

Extremism, on both sides is disheartening but I'm convinced that us regular people (the silent majority) don't come close to sharing the opinions or the values of the extremists, but our voice is muted and the media isn't helping by focusing their attention on the small % of people that share vastly different views and implying that much more than a small % have those. The 3-5% on either side don't represent the rest of us in the middle, not by a longshot. The 5-10% who share some of those viewpoints don't either, but again, their views tend to be forced on us and then broadbrushed to make us believe that us "others" share their opinions, we do not. This is why I tend to ignore cable news because they don't represent my general views the vast majority of the time.

Social media, twitter, and forums are a necessary evil, but can be productive as soon as someone that is a moderate blocks out the extreme voices on either side, i've almost completely given up on FB and twitter, they are troll farms IMO. Forums can be just as bad, but i've blocked as many hardcore lefties as I have hardcore righties because their views just create division and I have no desire to hear their thoughts.

I've recommended PF to others that expressed an interest in having productive dialogues on current events and politics in general but my first reminder was to make liberal use of the ignore function to get rid of the crazies, weed out the nuts and it can be productive and informative.

oh hell, I don't know, i'm just rambling at this point so i'll quit while i'm behind.

 

Again, you are including the negative growth from 2009 that Obama inherited from Bush, while Trump inherited a surging economy from Obama. Its like having Obama and Trump race, but shooting Obama in the leg first.

 

It is easier to "inherit" an economic crash. obama got credit for a natural bounce that would have happened anyway. After that we had the worst economic recovery ever. How is that an accomplishment?

 

Bloomie is the only Dem I could actually imagine myself voting for. And even if gets the nomination can you see him on the same stage debating a (much) taller Donald Trump? It's already decided Trump gets four more years.

 

I would love to see that. I think bloomberg what wipe the stage with trump. "Bloomie" can, you know, speak coherently; And in complete sentences. It would be laughingly simple to expose trumps idiocy - there's just so much there to attack, and trump lacks the ability to think on his feet. In the best case scenario trump would come off as an elderly man with dementia settling in.

 

Based on some conversations with some dems I know, It seems like they would have the same issue in 2020 that they had in 2016, two awful candidates. I'm not ruling out that a chunk of them and some pubs like myself going 3rd party again for lack of quality options.

I could be wrong because I haven't really looked into Bloomberg in depth, but from what I've skimmed it sounds like a win win for me if its down to those two, either way it goes I get a republican potus.