Has Trumpery Consigned the GOP to Demographic Doom?

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  1. Bluesguy

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    Which major demographic in this country is nationwide disproportionately represented in the least educational achievement group?

    Which major demographic in this country is disproportionately represented in those states.

    Which party does that group vote for by and over 90% margin?
     
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  2. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    You correctly not that I cited the documented public support for impeachment and the consequences of the truth being exposed.

    Nevertheless, I consistently opposed the process, but recognized when the evidence demanded it.

    I have always supported the exposure of the truth and opposed attempts to gag witnesses and conceal documents that are revelatory.
     
  3. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    I have presented the political preferences of states. and their ranking in relative academic achievement.

    You are free to note the correlation, or to deny it as you prefer.

    I assign no value judgement to the correlation.
     
  4. Bluesguy

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    How about simple answers to simple questions. YOU are the one conflating educational achievement with political preference. And judging states on such matters.

    Which major demographic in this country is nationwide disproportionately represented in the least educational achievement group?

    Which major demographic in this country is disproportionately represented in those states.

    Which party does that group vote for by and over 90% margin?
     
  5. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Which is talking out both sides of your mouth.
     
  6. HurricaneDitka

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    You and I probably disagree about whether impeachment was "demanded" (or "made it necessarily as a Constitutional mandate"), but we're each entitled to our opinions on the matter. Just curious, as I'm still feeling my way around here, do you feel that Clinton's impeachment was "demanded" by the evidence against him or that it was "necessarily as a Constitutional mandate"?
     
  7. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    If you don't like the data, you can present contrary studies if you can find any, or just pretend it does not exist.

    Again, I accurately cite the empirical data, and apply no subjective judgment to it.

    In this study, WalletHub examined the key factors of a well-educated population: educational attainment, school quality and achievement gaps between genders and races. We compared all 50 states across 18 total metrics grouped into two categories. The data set ranges from share of adults aged 25 years and older with at least a high school diploma to average university quality to gender gap in educational attainment.

    1 Massachusetts

    2 Maryland

    3 Colorado

    4 Vermont

    5 Connecticut

    6 Virginia

    7 Washington

    8 New Hampshire

    9 New Jersey

    10 Minnesota


    11 Utah

    12 Illinois

    13 New York

    14 Oregon

    15 Hawaii


    ...

    37 Indiana

    38 Arizona

    39 Texas

    40 Oklahoma

    41 Tennessee

    42 New Mexico

    43 Nevada


    44 South Carolina

    45 Kentucky

    46 Alabama

    47 Arkansas

    48 Louisiana

    49 West Virginia

    50 Mississippi

    States designated in red assigned their electoral votes to Trump in 2016.

    States designated in blue assigned their electoral votes to Clinton.

    https://wallethub.com/edu/e/most-educated-states/31075/

     
  8. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    I have accurately noted the degree of correlation of political preference and level of educational attainment among states, and make no subjective judgement.

    If you have opinions regarding other demographic matters that I do not address, you are free to present your data concerning them.
     
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  9. Smartmouthwoman

    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    Substantive content? :roflol:

    The answer to your question is NO. When it comes to old white men, the Democrats own that statistic..
    And it's not just voters.

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    I for one am rather unsurprised that the liberal indoctrination centers masquerading as colleges are having an impact on the political beliefs of their victims.
     
  11. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely. Clinton lied under oath, and it does not matter that it was about being a skank.

    Trump perverted US foreign policy and national security to pressure a foreign government for a "favor" - to damage a political rival (concerning whom neither the Trump Justice Department, nor Ukraine, nor China have yet contrived any evidence of criminality.)

    ( I accept that censure, rather than impeachment, was a viable option in both cases.)

    I hope John Bolton and John Kelly will be able to share all privileged insights that Trump hopes to suppress. Truth is good.
     
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  12. Lil Mike

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    You forgot what your OP was about; demography dooming the GOP, not Smartie States vote Democrat, although that is your alternate thread. You post multiple threads on these topics over and over, saying the same thing. It's weird.

    But no, you didn't post any data on your original demographic argument, so switching topics to state's education levels doesn't count. But let's review some demographic thread topics by you:

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...make-my-red-eyes-blue.560037/#post-1070862569

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...appened-on-the-way-to-the-gops-future.559418/

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...down-lane-to-oblivion.546174/#post-1069908590

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/in-a-democracy-demography-is-destiny.521331/

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-their-spot-of-solace.487340/#post-1066895269

    You do have an interest in that issue, as well as the aforementioned State Education and weirdly...Lindsey Graham. SO many posts about Graham! What's that all about?
     
  13. fmw

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    Graham is pure swamp rat. He talks but he doesn't do. Of course that is what the rest of the senate does as well.
     
  14. Natty Bumpo

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    The shameless squirming of Lindsey "The Trump Whisperer" Graham has been a Profile in Spinelessness:

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    “What concerns me about the American press is this endless, endless
    attempt to label the guy as some kind of kook not fit to be president!”

    February 2016

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    “I think he’s a kook! I think he’s crazy! I think he’s unfit for office!”
    November 2017
     
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    As an objective matter (with no value judgment whatsoever assigned by me), of the top 15 best-educated states in Forbes’ listing, 14 cast their electoral votes for the Democratic candidate in 2016.

    Of the 15 lest-educated, 13 cast their electoral vote for the Republican candidate.

    If you don’t like the high degree of correlation, you can ignore it, or dismiss it as just a random fluke.

    Perhaps, you can cite studies that demonstrate a higher degree of correlation of political preference with left-handedness, baldness, or earlobe shape?
     
  16. Lil Mike

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    Ha! Did I think you could respond to my question? Not really. You are not the "think on your feet" type of guy. Or, for that matter, a couple of hours to compose a solid post addressing the raised issues type of guy. I didn't ask about state education, I asked about your weird obsession for Lindsey Graham. No right leaning person has posted about him as much as you do.
     
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    As noted, with no value judgment whatsoever assigned by me, I have observed the high degree of correlation:

    Of the top 15 best-educated states in Forbes’ listing, 14 cast their electoral votes for the Democratic candidate in 2016.

    Of the 15 least-educated, 13 cast their electoral vote for the Republican candidate.

    If you don't like the level of correspondence, you can assess and challenge the methodology of the survey published in Forbes. (I assume that you accept the allocation of electoral votes as I have reported them.)

    I have accurately quoted Graham, and you are free to deny the stark contradiction if you need to:

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    “What concerns me about the American press is this endless, endless
    attempt to label the guy as some kind of kook not fit to be president!”


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    “I think he’s a kook! I think he’s crazy! I think he’s unfit for office!”

    I believe that I accidentally transposed the dates. I regret any confusion that may have caused.
     
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  18. Lil Mike

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    You're like a robot. You're not able to compute my responses so you post some variation of the nonsense I was questioning in the first place. You can't even include the topic that the thread that you created is about!

    Keep going little chatbot...
     
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    You need not become flustered because the significant statistical correspondence won't go away.
    The demographic truth endures, and your becoming upset about it being noted will not change it:

    Of the top 15 best-educated states in Forbes’ listing, 14 cast their electoral votes for the Democratic candidate in 2016.

    Of the 15 least-educated, 13 cast their electoral vote for the Republican candidate.

     
  20. Lil Mike

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    Amazing, you are doing exactly the same thing!

    Re-posted for hilarity!
     
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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Still flustered?

    Nevertheless,

    Of the top 15 best-educated states in Forbes’ listing, 14 cast their electoral votes for the Democratic candidate in 2016.

    Of the 15 least-educated, 13 cast their electoral vote for the Republican candidate.

     
  22. Lil Mike

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    Not the topic.

    Nothing to do with any reply I've made.

    Bleep Bloop you cannot actually discuss any issue, only repost the same things over and over and over and over...
     
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    Rather than become flustered over the significant demographic correspondence that you are unable to challenge, you might do better to just ignore it.

    Of the top 15 best-educated states in Forbes’ listing, 14 cast their electoral votes for the Democratic candidate in 2016.

    Of the 15 least-educated, 13 cast their electoral vote for the Republican candidate.
     
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    I wonder what point you think you are making when you are making my point with each post?

    Please continue!
     
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    Look what you have gained. Tree-huggers: You saved the trees and killed a business but you gave your fire fighters plenty of opportunity to learn their trade.

    Climate changers: You too have killed a business and your air is still some of the worst in the country but you have made owning an automobile a tasteless choice.

    Social engineers: your love of people has brought groups of poor and deprived people together and now they have whole city blocks to themselves. I guess that's one way to conserve water.

    Bleeding hearts: Sanctuary Cities have now been a safe haven for child molesters, drug gangs, rapist and murderers. At least it is keeping them out of my neighborhood. Thanks.

    Yeah I would recommend any democrat, liberal, bleeding heart types, criminals or illegals to please work your way out to California, Washington or Oregon for the good life.

    Look up Natty Bumpo when you get there and give him a big hug.
     

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