Joe Biden under probe in Ukraine for alleged link to top prosecutor’s 2016 ouster: report

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  1. Dutch

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    Investigators in Ukraine have launched a probe into former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden over allegations that he pressured Ukrainian officials to fire the country’s top prosecutor in 2016, according to a report.



    The Ukrainian probe was launched in response to a court order, after the ousted prosecutor, Viktor Shokin, made an appeal for action in the matter, Shokin’s attorney, Oleksandr Teleshetsky, told The Washington Post.

    “They need to investigate this. They have no other alternative,” Teleshetsky told the Post. “They are required to do this by the decision of the court. If they don't, then they violate a whole string of procedural norms.”


    Ukraine’s State Bureau of Investigations confirmed a probe was underway, the Post reported.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/jo...ed-link-to-top-prosecutors-2016-ouster-report

    Well, with all the Coronavirus news and a nationwide Trump-bashing, this is going under the radar but I think this news is significant and shows how little rational thought went into decision by the Democrats to start President Trump impeachment procedures over the Ukrainian phone call. Poor ole Joe Bite_me and the Jr., they both have to thank Pelosi and the Democrats for their blind hate!

    How far will this probe go? I was hoping that Sanders will win the nomination, but now I think nominating Joe Biden will be more fun.

    Run Joe, run :applause:
     
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    I can see in the end Trump having to tell the Ukrainians that he can't let them jail the former Vice President no matter how deserving he is of that result. Joe Biden bragged about blackmailing the Ukrainians into firing the prosecutor that was going after his son. Pretty much all Biden's handlers can do in the end is to point out that Biden has gone senile and can no longer distinguish between facts and lying dog-faced pony soldiers.
     
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    Great.

    So Trump's People are realizing that Biden is once again becoming a threat, and the RW Outrage Machine has moved away from Bernie and is back around to targeting Biden?:bored:

    Anyway, Biden should be overjoyed.

    Trump's people are (once again) clearly terrified of Biden.

    In any event, if any crimes were committed, I am sure that Biden will face the full weight of justice.

    Does Ukraine have the Death Penalty?

    That said, feel free to get back to me when they actually get a Conviction.

    (Which is sure to follow after a high-profile arrest that forces Biden to drop out).

    Until then?:bored:

    (Still, I would not want to lose track of this major developing story that is more significant than the first reports of 9/11/):flagus:
     
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    Did you actually call the Ukrainian government 'Trump's people'? Asking for a friend.
     
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    Obviously due to Trump's bribery of the Ukrainians...
     
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    Yep one of our Left of Center posters already went that route, failing to grasp that if Trump controlled the Ukrainian government to that extent while also working for Putin then there would no longer exist any tensions between the two opposing nations.
     
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    To recap:

    Biden will be extradited to Ukraine to face the Death Penalty.

    Trump is headed to a 50-State Sweep.

    It is All Obama's Fault.

    Did, I miss anything?
     
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    You missed contributing anything substantive and valuable to this discussion.
     
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    Just gonna copy and paste this here

    Huh. So the Prosecutor Shokin who as removed by his own countries Parlimentary Vote, 3 months after Biden left (Biden was there in Dec, they finally removed him in March), asked to have this investigation open.

    So what is the Unified Register of Pre-Trial Investigations? Well lets look.

    Oh fancy that. Because of the Anti-Corruption reforms backed by the International Community (Biden among them) that ended up deposing Shokin,.... well I'll let this explain it

    Shokin asked for the investigation, the Police or Prosecutors office refused to open a case stating that there was no criminal offense, and so Shokin filed a claim, which FORCES the addition of the claim to the Pre-Trial investigations and start an investigation.

    They literally have to do this because of the reforms. So Shokin is basically playing more shell games to try and get himself outta trouble and blame it all on Biden using the current chaos in the US Political System to help himself.

    What a joke lol.
     
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    Yeah, and if one don't like Fox take MSN:

    "KYIV —A court ruling in Ukraine has forced state investigators to open a probe into alleged pressure by then-vice president Joe Biden that led to the 2016 dismissal of Viktor Shokin as the country’s prosecutor general, officials said Thursday."

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl...tor-viktor-shokin/ar-BB10ueCF?ocid=spartandhp

    Trump has finally gotten a little breathing room and can relax a bit. The truth shall be known.
     
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    Sorry about the duplicate thread. Moderators will merge them if they think the should.
     
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    The Dems have nobody but themselves to blame for this. Had the Dems not been so desperate to undo the 2016 election, as to bring Biden's corruption to the headlines, this would have amounted to nothing

    Not now, looks like Quid Pro Joe and his corrupt son are in hot water.

    With that said, this also highlights yet another corrupt force in the Obama Admin.....geez....it's like pulling up a piece of lumber and watching the worms
     
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    Trump doesnt have to worry about Sanders. The DNC are already working on tearing him down. Yah know, being a Russian asset in all. They are already talking about blocking him from the convention.he will get zero super delegates.
     
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    Yeah, and if one don't like Fox take MSN:

    "KYIV —A court ruling in Ukraine has forced state investigators to open a probe into alleged pressure by then-vice president Joe Biden that led to the 2016 dismissal of Viktor Shokin as the country’s prosecutor general, officials said Thursday."

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl...tor-viktor-shokin/ar-BB10ueCF?ocid=spartandhp

    Trump has finally gotten a little breathing room and can relax a bit. The truth shall
    The Ukranian court saw it Shokin's way. Maybe it's an activist judge(s). Here we go!!!
     
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    Heads up Patriots.. this investigation is going to take awhile.. Unlike the manufactured Mueller Report.. this investigation has a lot of leads to track down.
     
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    Well, really just watch the vid and apply Ockam's razor to limit the leads to follow and get it done quick.
     
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    How far will this probe go?

    If allowed to run it's course the probe could wind up ensnaring a lot more people than the Bidens.

    Interfax-Ukraine has been running a bunch of articles about this stuff since the latter part of last year. Google Interfax-Ukraine Biden and you'll see what I'm talking about.

    While you're at it, you might want to take spin through the articles at nabu-leaks.com
     
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    Just that Biden's brains are currently leaking from his lying dog-faced pony soldier's ears and so the Ukrainian government probably won't end up demanding that a senile ol' Uncle Joe go to prison. Look a bright side for the Left!
     
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    I was just reading the interfax article again to figure out how this is set up, and I think I agree with you.

    The motion was filed by Shokin's lawyer, but the court ordered it to be opened. Must be that the court thought it has merit.
     
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    I'm a bit torn on how the dems will play ol' Bernie.
    I have a theory that some dems have calculated that they stand no chance of unseating an incumbent president during good times, the socialist in their party are grabbing power, and the Bernie Bros will riot against the DNC if they perceive Bernie is cheated again; they could just let Bernie and his buddies have it suffer a humilating defeat,..... the dems problems solved.
     
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    Thanks for the link, will do soon as we land. My wife does not approve of me being on Political Forum when we travel together. She wants all the attention :D
     
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    You're welcome, Dutch, and my wife is the same way. :lol:
     
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    Even with the Coronavirus, Trumps base is fairly strong.

    New York Times: Superdelegates open to brokered convention to block Sanders from nomination
     
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    Trump was already asking Ukraine to do this before any impeachment started. Lol
    It’s like saying Nixon only broke in the dnc because they were gonna impeach him for breaking into the dnc
     
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    Yes, Trump was asking the new admin to root out corruption.

    what does Nixon have to do with this? I don't think it is right to compare the Obama admin to that, yet
     
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