Why children aren’t getting sick from coronavirus

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  1. Josephwalker

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    Did I say that? You have implied our hospitals are being overrun by corona victims with a hundred deaths but were not with seven thousand swine flu deaths. Link please.
     
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    The swine flu was .02% by your own numbers. Corona is 3.5% of recorded cases and the real death rate is certainly much lower, but certainly not .02%.
     
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    Depends on how many unrecorded cases there are. We really have no idea and it very well could be on par with swine flu or at least not much worse.As of now we are making policy on wildly inflated numbers.
     
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    I haven't implied anything but some hospitals in Italy are being overrun. Anyway, your question was: "Why now and why not during the Swine flu pandemic that killed thousands of Americans? Why were we not flattening the curve then?"

    The answer, of course, was that THE CURVE WAS ALREADY FLAT! We know this because hospitals were NOT being overrun with h1n1 patients. duh!
     
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    The Coronavirus might have the same death rate as the flu or it might be a few times worse, (.1% to 1% death rate realistically). But with the Coronavirus, it is far more contageous, and we have no immunity or vaccine. There is so much we don't know, and its just not worth the risk to do nothing. If hospitals get overwhelmed, people with other health conditions won't be able to get proper medical care.
     
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    And once again do you have a link proving that assertion or are you once again just mouthing off? Could be or maybe not. I honestly don’t remember.
     
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    Seems like a lot of if’s to base such draconian policies on. I think people are getting worked up because of the failure of Italy’s socialized health care system breaking down so fast and thinking that will also happen here. We may well be destroying our economy on a completely false premise. I’d prefer we gear up hospitals rather than shut down commerce.
     
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    As I showed you, we actually have fewer doctors and hospital beds than Italians, so any shortages they face will certainly be faced by us. And they only have about 30,000 infected, while if we do nothing, we can have tens of millions infected.
     
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    You can't reason with these people. They refuse to see what's right in front of their stupid noses.
     
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    Takes more than beds and General practitioners. It takes specialist and equipment like ventilators both of which were in short supply in Italy.
     
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    We need beds, and general practitioners too. And we have less than Italy does. Our healthcare system will be overwhelmed, its really a question of how much. The best thing we can do is slow this thing down and stay inside as much as possible. This will spread out the virus and help our healthcare system, and people with other health issues who need medical care.
     
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    IMO we are over reacting and millions of Americans will suffer financially losing jobs, homes cars etc for no reason. Be interesting to see public reaction as these things over time start to happen. .
     
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    But if we do nothing, hundreds of thousands could die, and people will panic anyway. Hospitals will be overwhelmed no matter what and result in more deaths. And wouldn't it be sad if we came out with a vaccine after all this, when simple measures could have given us some time until the vaccine?
     
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    I’m not saying do nothing but shutting down businesses is doing too much. At some point you have to consider people’s economic lives. Nobody wants corona but nobody wants to lose their home either.
     
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    Ok, there is a huge economic toll. But how many people are you fine with dying because hospitals get overwhelmed and people people die from the virus we don't fully understand yet? Whats your number? Is there even a number?
     
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    Fair question and I don’t have a number but I do think some extra deaths are preferable to economic collapse. This may sound harsh but don’t we accept traffic and truck driver deaths as part of keeping the economy running?
     
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    But traffic deaths won't overwhelm our healthcare system like the coronavirus will. We are in big trouble if we don't have enough doctors to take care of people.
     
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    You asked if I thought a certain amount of deaths were acceptable to keep the economy going and I gave an honest answer, yes. We make that decision every day with thousands of traffic fatalities per year.
     
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    Yes.
    France, Italy, China. All want tRUMP gone. Why? Not sure.
     
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    I think that is the real fear.
    Overloading the healthcare system we have that is not all that great or prepared.
    This isolation the entire country is doing is to slow the rise and spread out the curve.
     
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    Don't forget China. Especially France and Italy. They shut their country down to undermine tRUMP.
     
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    So you are ok with our healthcare system being completely overwhelmed and being unable to care for people who are sick? Overwhelming the healthcare system will kill far more people than just the virus itself. In the case of traffic deaths, there is no way of avoiding them without shutting off the economy perminantly. In the case of Covid, it will overwhelm our healthcare system unlike traffic accidents. If we stretch out the curve we can prevent many people from getting sick and prevent hundreds of thousands of deaths, until we either get a vaccine or we all become immune. The danger of Covid is that nobody is immune, no vaccine, we don't completely understand the death rate, and its going to overwhelm our healthcare system.
     
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    If you're that old, you should just skip the hospital and leave it for the next generations.
     
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    It's targeting that old parts that we do have, let us say targeting the already worn up carburetors and fuel injectors. But somehow on the other hand the virus makes the fittest survive and weak perishes and that will satisfy your political side inquiry.
     
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    And now they dominate tRUMP? He declared a state of emergency to deal with this. Now he's whoring for globalists? The very group he campaigned and enacted EOs against?
     

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