Progressivism: Enemy of America. Enemy of Humanity.

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  1. crank

    crank Well-Known Member

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    LOL ... such naivety.
     
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    He paraphrased a quote from the book. What is so hard to understand?
     
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    ButterBalls Well-Known Member

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    Read rule 15 of the TOS and tell me why you are bringing so much attention to it :) Clearly the post and quote in question is NOTHING like the original by your own quote. unless you wish me to believe they are separate instances?
     
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    You make no sense. Seriously. I’ve never encountered anyone who gets as confused as you do. Just go away.
     
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    See you made the issue now you want out :)

    So how does this measure up to your paraphrasing and the above example.. It doesn't actually meet even your guidelines :)

    Looks a bit to personalized compared to your original quote in my opinion :) But thanks for making all this much clearer :nod::nod::nod::nod: :wierdface: :thumbsup::rock_slayer:
     
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    Texas Republican Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thats too much government for me. I prefer freedom over the nanny state.

    Instead of more government, I want less. For example, did you know the average American commits four crimes per day? We have too many laws, rules, and restrictions.
     
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    A living wage is not more government. Neither is help with daycare paid parental leave great vacations. Cheap college and training would help. And the rich should be taxed their fair share. I have nothing against what you say there. Legalize It. Include drugs. But we need more treatment. For mental health too I think. Government has only grown under Reagan and Bush and Trump. Not Clinton and Obama so you are misinformed.
     
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    You’re trying too hard.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No one that I know is saying Progressivism is limited to the Democrat Camp. Jefferson and Hamilton did achieve a balance. That balance is extremely important to maintain.
     
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    Funny. I was done with it until you wanted to have a turn :)
     
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    Total BS. Just more hatred & acrimony from the ultra-right Trumpsters. I hope the forum members have more sense than to believe any of it.
     
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    Dismissal and indignation is not a logical rebuttal..

    ..and, projecting your own hatred of America towards those who love and defend the Idea, is psychobabble projection.
     
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    Well said. Progressivism is recognized by the BELIEFS, and tenets of ideology, not association with a political party, or human institution.

    Plenty of Republicans are progressives, as are most religious institutions. Academia is almost completely dominated and controlled by progressives, who don't even hide their agenda, anymore. The legal system, too. The media, entertainment, govt employees, and most every human institution is infected with the deadly disease of progressive ideology. Forums like this, too, are poisoned with progressive ideologues, spreading lies and insurrection against the American Experiment.
     
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    Yes. The Indoctrination runs deep, among products of institutional programming. Few seem able to see through the ideological propaganda.

    Hostility, revisionism, censorship, and ANYTHING, except facts and Reason, are used to drive us from the principles America was founded upon.

    Progressivism abandons science and reason, and embraces madness and folly, to drive us backwards, to the dark ages.
     
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    Anyone with a grain of commonsense knows that the amount of freedom America citizens have depends solely on the size of their bank balance. There are places on the planet where complete freedom exists where you can have you're wish for freedom the trouble is that every one you may meet also has complete freedom as well and without water you wouldn't last a week. the complete freedom you wish for has another name its called Anarchy
     
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    I'm not laughing. Actually it scares me to the core.
     
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    If you like freedom, the way to reach the optimal point is to make government as small as possible, stopping just short of anarchy. That is where you’ll find American conservative and libertarian ideology.
     
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    I'm in total disagreement. I know people living off the grid, completely void of government. No big bank accounts but I can't imagine being freer than that. Contentment is a big factor in being free. I'll go one further......contentment without government intervention is a large aspect of freedom. When you free yourself of coveting and materialism, you will find true freedom, but when your focus is on the SIZE of your bank account, you experience true bondage. Some people with big bank accounts are truly free, and they give back, but that is not a requirement to being free. It is a function of the soul.
     
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    Uh. No. Anyone with a grain of commonsense knows that the amount of freedom American citizens have depends on several factors, the sustainability of the Constitutional Republic chief above them.

    Brookings did a study. Poor teenagers need to do only three things to have an overwhelming chance of joining the middle class 1. Stay in school. 2. Don't have children until marriage. 3. Get a job and stay in it.

    OMG HOW WILL THEY EVER SURMOUNT THESE INSURMOUNTABLE OBSTACLES!?
     
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    That depends on "IF" you chose to live in a society.. The U.S. has quite a few square miles of wilderness that anyone can vanish in to ;)
     
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    Leftist are funny! They complain about the illusion of freedom and then turn right back around and liplock the teat of welfare and live under a political party system that exists from the promise and practice of it :)
     
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    Is the current govt as small as you would like it to be? If not, when was the last time the govt WAS as small as you would like it to be?
     
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    This reply is a bit confusing but never mind.

    The way to reach the optimal point is to make government as small as possible

    And how do you do that? Once a government is elected then it rules, for better or worse and I have never heard of any US government ask for less control.

    Stopping just short of anarchy.

    I’m afraid that anarchy has no middle ground i.e. half measures are not an option.
     
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    Then again the poster said "Just short of" so I assume this, well should meet your claim, right?

     
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