Trump Warned America About Coronavirus In Speech That Pelosi Tore Up

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  1. Burzmali

    Burzmali Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Please, that attitude is like the "being intolerant of intolerance" one that bigots like to toss around. Trump did f*** this up. He's explicitly made it partisan by demanding state leaders "treat him nicely," and then immediately meeting the needs of states like Florida and Oklahoma because their governors have been sucking up to him.

    Trump has the blood of thousands on his hands right now. It will likely be hundreds of thousands when this is over. And the sycophants will keep on making excuses and crying about everyone with a D next to their name, and blaming anyone they can, to avoid facing the truth.
     
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    Thanks, point taken on Fauci.

    Again, I'm not taking the whatabouthillary bait.
     
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    Where's the quote? Sorry, but there are hundreds of posts on this thread and I'm not goint to take the time to go back through them, not even my own.

    If you can't prove it, don't post it.
     
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    Not surprising at all.

    Pelosi is petty, and very stupid.
     
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    You don't remember denying that Nancy ever said that, and demanding I provide you links proving it in this thread? Really
     
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    No the President did not fire the pandemic response team....the main problem we are having is leftist outlets are pushing fake news, and despite being called out on it....some continue to spread the lies...

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/a...olve_its_pandemic_response_office_142683.html
     
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    Pelosi encouraged the spread of the coronavirus by encouraging people to go to china town in large numbers. That’s pretty disgusting considering she is blaming the president.
     
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    Like I said, quote me. That doesn't sound like my posts.
     
  10. struth

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    See post 307. Are you saying I'm somehow editing your post?????
     
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    The Democratic Governors of the Top 5 hardest hit States in America F****d this up. If not for the incompetence of those 5 States New York, New Jersey, Michigan, California and Lousiana, the Outbreak in the United States would only be half as Bad. President Trump can only do so much to get individual States to do the right thing, which is about as easy as trying to Herd a bunch of Stray Cats.
     
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    Reading comprehension is a skill beyond price. I didn't say that Trump dismantled that team himself. I said "And whether at his direction or not, the pandemic response team that Obama's administration put into place was, in fact, dismantled in April 2018."

    It matters not that it was John Bolton doing the deed, and as your link stated, it was done, as usual with this administration, because it was an Obama-era team and the Trump administration deemed the existing NSC to be bloated. Bolton may have thought he was just trimming fat.

    The result remains the same: the incompetence of the Trump administration has put American lives in danger.

    As for Morrison's claim that "... it has left the biodefense staff unaffected ..." experts including Dr. Fauci beg to differ:

    https://time.com/5806558/administration-officials-fight-criticism/

    "Now architects of the NSC reorganization are speaking out, defending the White House’s decision by arguing that they merely streamlined a bloated organization and put pandemic ..."

    That seems like a direct response to Morrison and probably a few other Trump apologists. Morrison's opinion seems to have been written in defense of his own people from when he worked under Bolton, which is admirable for a leader, but not necessarily accurate.

    Back in November 2019 the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) warned about this very thing: complacency causing a reduction in staff and funding for responding to pandemics.

    https://www.csis.org/analysis/ending-cycle-crisis-and-complacency-us-global-health-security

    “I don’t know anything about it,” Trump said at the March 13 press conference. Typical of Mr. "I don't take responsibility at all."
     
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    God-cursed lying bullshit. That guy's nose is so far up Trump's ass that he must smell Big Mac **** every morning

    He admits himself that that there was a "reduction in force" in the NSC, and that means less people. Saying the organization was "streamlined" and that they could then "commingle" with other disciplines means basically you had less people and they were distracted by working on other things, which is just what has been said all along
     
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    That was not a denial that Pelosi said it, that was me asking for a link, since I had not read or heard about her saying it.

    You DO understand the difference, right? Asking for proof of a claim is not the same as denying a claim.

    For future reference, if I deny something you present, I will state something like "That's horse pucky" followed by a link debunking your claim. Asking you for proof is just that, a request for proof.
     
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    Demanding proof, is a denial.
     
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    They probably did make mistakes. It's easy for those of us who aren't partisan about this to acknowledge that. I won't hold my breath for Trump supporters to do the same.

    And "Trump can only do so much" is a cop out. He's fallen well short of that "only so much" he could have done, and in some cases actively made the problem worse.
     
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    A reduction in force....is not the same as disbandiing. Complete lies by the left
     
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    As the facts highlight it was never dismantled. A reduction in size, is not a dismantling . Moreover, it is the CDC, not the NSC that responds to the global pandemics and national health issues...they have no gone down in size. I do agree with the CSIS, we need a continuous plan in place, not the cycle we've been using. Hopefully that will come out of this pandemic.
     
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    No, it most certainly is not. Asking for proof is asking for information or comfirmation, something ypu have a problem with supplying when you make claims.

    Not once did I deny that Pelosi downplayed the danger and urged everyone to go out and dine in Chinatown. Not even close. Perhaps your owm combativness has you assuming that asking for proof is the same as saying "I think you're lying" or "I think you're making that up." In psychology, they call that projection -- the act of assuming that others are the same as you.

    I don't play that way. I have more honor than that. Read my post again: if I think your claim is bee ess, I'll say so.
     
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    It was dismantled for the purpose of pandemics. The personnel who did not get fired work on many other things for the NSC and their focus is not the same as before. The coordination between the White House and the CDC was badically cut off at the knees. It had a profound effect on the ineptness of the Trump administration's tesponse to this virus.

    We HAD "a continuous plan in place" -- that was my whole point, ffs.
     
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    As the article I linked for you highlights you are wrong.


    No we did not that was the point of the article you linked. That was what your link said we didn’t
     
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    I said she did it and you said prove. I said you hadn’t heard of this? It was well discussed. You said you hadn’t. You denied it took place.
     
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    Pelosi is like a mini Hilary, small and less annoying perhaps, and her cackle is not as horrid. But still makes you want to punt her across the room when you see her.
     
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    Partisan extremism at its ugliest and most ignorant.
     

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