Corona Virus Update

Not if it means giving a gram of credit, the anti-Trumpers would rather have people go to their graves then let Trump get a bit of credit for anything good.

 

Lol!

Just living his

 

https://twitter.com/JoeConchaTV/status/1247128122346156038

 

I have seen an awful lot of references to two or more people in one family dying. That seems highly unlikely given a 2-3% mortality rate. It implies that for some reason, the vulnerability to severe infections is related to genetics. But then one example was a husband and wife. Hmmmm.

There were also early reports from Italy that a majority of severely ill patients had type A- blood. I haven't heard anything more about it.

 

Boris Johnson [UK PM] has been admitted to the ICU.

 

That was yesterday. Unless he's worse today?

 

No real updates. Just hadn't seen it mentioned. They say he is not on a ventilator.

They have about a 66% mortality rate in the UK once they go on a ventilator.

 

Oh yeah, so true!

We even elected a President who had to drive a golf cart a few hundred yards ratger than walk that distance with a group of world leaders who all walked! One of those leaders was a GIRL! Can't remember his name except his initials DJT or something like that....

This is kind of sad that current Righties think that there is a guarentee that the USA is guaranteed to win a world war.

Its much more likely that the USA could almost guarantee to kill most the people in the world, including the USA, along most of its ecosystem.

The people like Bolton and his ilk sound pretty comfortable with that idea, but that is not the point now, is it?

 

How petty and misspelled as well.

 

Was it not true?

Yes, I misspelled a word. Why should I dhow up our President? He just told us he wants us to praise and kneel to the president before our news media does some little quibble of Trump facts (except the mistake was by someone else, especially somen chick who came from Obama's cabinet and previous administrations!).

Even when 90% of Trump's statements were lies. But they are little lies from Obama and Obama tricked Trump just like Trump's wife was tricked by Obama's wife to get Melania to accently (sic) plagiarize herself! She has a architectural degree, you know!

 

I'll bet he kept working while under quarantine, instead of resting. Pneumonia, is my guess. He likely also delayed hospitalisation, like a lot of men do. Especially when they think they're important.

 

It is natural to deny that it's serious. It is hard to admit that. I've had a moment like that and it was life or death. I didn't know it then but I had a matter of an hour or so before I was dead. Dialing 911 was one of the hardest things I've ever had to do but luckily I did. My natural impulse was to think it was just some weird thing that would pass.

At the age of 16 I had a large cyst on my spine. I delayed telling my parents for weeks, perhaps even months, because I didn't want to admit it might be serious. I honestly thought it was a tumor and I had cancer.

I don't know if this is unique to men but I know the feeling.

BTW, when they removed that cyst I had 500 stitches - 300 internal and 200 external.

 

I vaguely remember reading something about a family (in NY maybe?) with a couple of deaths in the same family, but they were all quite obese, and the gist of what I read was that they thought the obesity contributed to their deaths, not genetics.

 

One family had four deaths, IIRC. The surviving member interviewed didn't appear to be obese but I don't know much more about it. She had tested positive. Apparently they all got it from the original carrier at a family dinner.

 

I wonder if that factor (not being obese) contributed to her survival, vs the obese relatives.

 

I've seen plenty of young healthy people who died. So that certainly isn't definitive. But they have said all along that obesity appears to be one of the compromising factors.

One thing that definitely seems to be a factor is level of exposure. That appears to be why otherwise young and healthy medical workers are dropping so fast. They are getting large doses and they go fast. I've tried to factor this into my own efforts. If you somehow get it in your house or are exposed through someone, anything you can do to minimize the amount of virus you get might still be important.

 

We live indoors - medical science is not suggesting that being outside is a risk.

If temperature and humidity are serious factors, we could control for that where we spend our time - indoors.

I don't hear anything about that.

 

Do we know it will go away in warm weather? There are so many questions.

 

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living with an infected person likely means large doses of the virus. similar to the health care workers are getting. increases chances of it becoming severe.

 

These were sisters and I think one brother, and their families, along with the elderly mother, at a family dinner. So it appears that five or more caught it at the dinner. So even limited but close contact appears to do it.

That is one reason it was so bad in Italy. They hug and kiss and lot.

Of course if this was a requirement to pass it, no one in the UK would ever get it.

 

Our leadership situation could not possibly be more ridiculous.

In WWII, we had a president who rallyed ALL America against the axis.

We IMMEDIATELY put our manufacturing power to work on the needs of our response to Gernmany and Japan. Companies across the nation stopped producing their products and moved to creating what was necessary to combat the enemy.

We had individuals all across America voluntarily taking action both at home and by joining our military effort as troops, doctors, merchant marines, pilots, and those who efficiently moved supplies to where they were needed - regardless of where they were needed.

We instigated strict rationing of materials that were needed at home and abroad - gas, tires, etc., etc,. I still have ration tokens required to buy these materials that my parents had left over after the war. Many cities near our boarders kept the lights off and/or blackened their windows. We had campaigns oriented to restricting what people talked about. And, we had a president who took this deadly seriously and marshalled ouur capabilities as well as our spirits.


Today, we do NOT have a national response.

Today we have a president who undermines medical direction, who even pulls Dr. Fauci away from the microphone when the president has lied.

 

True. Once the exposure became clear, there really was no solution other than for them to stay sequestered.

We don't have enough testing to identify which memebers could leave. And we don't have sufficient quarantine facilities to wait out the time required for test results.


As for our medical staaff, they are volunteering to risk their lives to save others. And, for them to even go home to their families is a deadly risk.

 

So the model predictions of the c19 deaths in the US using the current data are now reduced to 81k deaths and 49k deaths in the low end. Some scientists are saying they think even lower than that. Fantastic news.

 

News to me:

https://khn.org/news/mysterious-heart-damage-not-just-lung-troubles-befalling-covid-19-patients/amp/

While the focus of the COVID-19 pandemic has been on respiratory problems and securing enough ventilators, doctors on the front lines are grappling with a new medical mystery.

In addition to lung damage, many COVID-19 patients are also developing heart problems — and dying of cardiac arrest.

As more data comes in from China and Italy, as well as Washington state and New York, more cardiac experts are coming to believe the COVID-19 virus can infect the heart muscle. An initial study found cardiac damage in as many as 1 in 5 patients, leading to heart failure and death even among those who show no signs of respiratory distress.

That could change the way doctors and hospitals need to think about patients, particularly in the early stages of illness. It also could open up a second front in the battle against the COVID-19 pandemic, with a need for new precautions in people with preexisting heart problems, new demands for equipment and, ultimately, new treatment plans for damaged hearts among those who survive.

Ulrich Jorde, the head of heart failure, cardiac transplantation and mechanical circulatory support for the Montefiore Health System in New York City. “This may save many lives in the end.”